Plasma balls- Dangerous at all?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the safety and effects of using plasma balls, particularly regarding the electrical discharges they produce and the potential for harm to users. Participants share personal experiences and observations related to the interaction with plasma balls, exploring both the sensory effects and possible dangers involved.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes experiencing a burning smell from their finger after interacting with a plasma ball, raising concerns about safety.
  • Another participant suggests that the smell could be ozone produced by ionization discharge, proposing a method to test this hypothesis.
  • A different participant shares a method involving a microwave to produce ozone, linking it to the smell experienced.
  • Concerns are raised about electrical burns potentially damaging underlying muscle without visible skin harm.
  • One participant notes that small discharges from plasma balls may burn skin but suggests that occasional use is unlikely to cause harm, while cautioning about the potential for cancer-inducing substances from burned organic compounds.
  • Another participant proposes experimenting with different materials, like isopor balls, to observe their behavior near the plasma ball.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying degrees of concern about the safety of using plasma balls, with some suggesting that occasional use is safe while others highlight potential risks. No consensus is reached regarding the overall danger of these devices.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various sensory experiences and potential chemical byproducts without fully resolving the implications of these observations. The discussion includes anecdotal evidence and personal experimentation, which may not account for all safety considerations.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in the physics of plasma, electrical safety, or those considering using plasma balls for educational or entertainment purposes may find this discussion relevant.

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I've recently found my old plasma ball, so decided to waste a couple of hours becoming entranced with it. I noticed that if I touched it with anything other than my hand, the streams didn't seem to be attracted to it. I did a bit of reading on it and found that it has to be something which will conduct electricity quite well, so I try a few things to no avail, and decide it's tinfoil time. This works quite well, but then I discover that if I balance it on top of the ball and hold my finger near it, I can make some tiny sparks from the foil to my finger. This amuses me for a little while, until I start to smell a rather strong burning smell coming from my finger. I'm a little reluctant to continue now. Is there any danger in doing this, or is it pretty safe?
 
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Was your finger burning? If it was, you might not do that anymore. If it wasn't, keep going.
 
Not in the "on fire" sense, but it smells like it has been. There was no pain by the way. A slight tingle, but that is all.
 
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Not in the "on fire" sense, but it smells like it has been. There was no pain by the way. A slight tingle, but that is all.
You might just be smelling ozone from the ionization discharge that you saw between the foil and your finger. Try holding a sharp metal object with your hand and arcing the tip of the metal edge to the foil. If you smell the same smell, it's ozone (or some other byproduct of the ionization discharge -- I don't know offhand if ozone is odorless).
 
An easier way is to put a CD you don't want, or an unburned one into your microwave oven for ~2 seconds. Open the door and smell what's in there. That is the smell of ozone, O3
The two pictures below show what happens when you touch the bulb. Notice the *HOT* plasma channel moving upwards to my hand, which is right above the bulb. The maximum I could touch the bulb for was about 10 seconds, after that it would become hot enough to really burn my skin! The plasma stream is so dense, in fact, that by touching the bulb with a grounded wire, you can actually melt through the glass in a few seconds! A real plasma torch!
Here's also an mpeg from the site: http://powerlabs.org/movies/burnglass.mpg You can see the stream of plasma make its way out of the globe and to the metal rod! Which a person is holding!
 
I tried using foil and another metal object. Lots of sparks, but no smell this time, so I reckon it must have been me I smelled. I guess that's a sign to stop.

That video is pretty cool. I wonder if it's the same as I'm doing but with higher voltages. I don't think mine can melt through the glass though (or at least I hope not)
 
electrical burns can damage muscle below the skin without harming the skin. Like the old saying goes, it's not the injury that kills ya, its the infection.
 
I have one of these plasma balls and this small discharges simply seems to burn part of our skin, producing the smell you have mentioned. No harm seems to be involved as long as you do it few times a week, just to present the effect to others. Carbon compounds, organic compounds, when burned, may originate cancer inducing substances. This is the principal reason to avoid doing this experiment frequently.

Try rotating gently the plasma ball and you will find out that there is really a gas inside, for its viscosity makes the streams rotate also.

I wonder if experiments with isopor balls may result in situations where they stay floating near de ball due to electrization process.

Best Regards,

DaTario
 

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