Centripetal acceleration and friction

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving centripetal acceleration and friction in the context of a carnival ride. The original poster is trying to determine the minimum coefficient of static friction required to prevent people from slipping down when the floor drops out, given the radius of the ride and its rotation frequency.

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  • The original poster expresses confusion about how to find the coefficient of static friction with the provided frequency and radius, noting a lack of mass information. Some participants discuss the relationship between radial acceleration, normal force, and frictional force, while others seek clarification on the term "omega" used in the discussion.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different aspects of the problem. Some have provided insights into the calculations involved, while others are seeking clarification on specific terms and concepts. There is no explicit consensus yet, but the dialogue appears to be productive.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the problem as posed, with some questioning the assumptions related to mass and the definitions of angular velocity.

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In a "rotor-ride" at a carnival, people are rotated in a cylindrically walled "room." The room radius is 4.6 m, and the rotation frequency is .5 revolutions per second when the floor drops out. What is the minimum coefficient of static friction so that the people will not slip down?

I am totally confused as to how to find that with only the frequency and radius provided. I was able to find the centripetal acceleration, but I am stuck now. I don't have the mass...so what about the forces?

Thank you so much for all your help.
 
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ok, this might not be correct as I've only just covered this myself...

Under the conditions you describe the ride should have a radial acceleration of -r*omega^2. From Newton's second law F=ma, so the force exerted on the walls of the ride is equal to -m*r*(omega^2) - therefore the normal reaction force should be opposite to that. As Frictional force = coefficient of friction * normal reaction force, and the frictional force has to equal the weight of the people, mu*R = mg, where R = m*r*(omega^2), the mass cancels out and so it's possible to find mu (I get a very small value of mu but as the ride's moving at an insanely fast speed through a large circle the value one gets should be rather low).

Cheers,
Just some guy.
 
Ok, that makes perfect sense. But what do you mean when you say omega??

thanks.
 
TickleMeElma said:
Ok, that makes perfect sense. But what do you mean when you say omega??
thanks.

Angular velocity in radians per second (as it makes a revolution in .5 seconds it's moving at 2 revolutions per second which is 4pi radians per second which is the angular velocity).
 

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