Can Inequalities be Proven with Simple Algebraic Manipulation?

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The discussion revolves around the validity of the inequality ac < bd given the conditions a < b and c < d. Participants are exploring the implications of these inequalities in the context of real numbers and specific cases involving positive numbers.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants are attempting to prove the inequality ac < bd and questioning its validity under various conditions, including the nature of the numbers involved (real vs. positive). Some participants provide counterexamples to challenge the statement.

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The discussion is active, with participants offering differing viewpoints on the correctness of the statement. Some have provided examples that contradict the inequality when certain values are chosen, while others are exploring conditions under which the statement might hold true.

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There is an ongoing debate about the definitions and constraints of the variables involved, particularly regarding whether they are all real numbers or specifically positive numbers. This has led to questions about the assumptions underlying the original statement.

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Hi, can someone help me with the following question? I don't know how to approach the proof :confused:

If a < b and c < d then ac < bd is true, supply a proof.

Thanks!
 
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elle said:
Hi, can someone help me with the following question? I don't know how to approach the proof
If a < b and c < d then ac < bd is true, supply a proof.
Thanks!
It's not true !

let a = -2, b= -1 then a < b is true
let c = 0, d = 1 then c < d is true
but
ac = -2*0 =0
bd = -1*1 = -1
and
0 not < -1
so
ac < bd is not true

if a,b,c,d are all positive, then the statement is true
 
Oh so if a,b,c and d are all real numbers, does that mean the statement is true? How do I approach the proof :confused:
 
elle, do you know what a real number is ? I think you mean 'positive numbers.'

In any case, if the question is exactly as you've written it, then it is incorrect...and perhaps that's what you should say (rather than second-guess and try to reinterpret the question so as to make it correct) .
 
If a< b, c< d and either b and c are positive or a and d are positive then ac< bd.

From a< b and c positive you get ac< bc. from c< d and b positive what do you get? Can you combine them?
 

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