Help with projetile motion using Energy Theorem

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The discussion revolves around a projectile motion problem involving a baseball thrown from a height of 22.1 m with an initial velocity of 12.1 m/s at an angle of 53.1 degrees. The objective is to determine the speed of the ball just before it impacts the ground, with participants exploring energy conservation and kinematic approaches.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the energy theorem, breaking the problem into two parts: from the throw to the maximum height and from the maximum height to the ground. They express concern about a potential rounding error or incorrect significant figures in their calculations.
  • Some participants question the assumptions made regarding the reference point for height and suggest that the maximum height reached should be reconsidered in the context of the building's height.
  • Others suggest incorporating both the vertical and horizontal components of velocity to find the resultant speed just before impact.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, providing insights and questioning assumptions. There is a recognition of the need to consider both components of motion, and some guidance has been offered regarding the calculation of the resultant velocity.

Contextual Notes

There is an ongoing discussion about the reference point for height, with some participants suggesting that the origin should be considered as the ground rather than the top of the building. This may affect the calculations and assumptions made by the original poster.

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I just wanted some one to check over my answer because i am doing my homework online and it keeps telling that my answer is close, and that i have made a rounding error or used the wrong sig figs.

The problem is
A baseball is thrown from the roof of a building of height 22.1 m with an initial velocity of magnitude 12.1 m/s and directed at an angle of 53.1o above the horizontal.

What is the speed of the ball just before it hits the ground.

Ok i split the problem into two parts. From the point he threw the ball to when it reaches its max height and then from its max height to the point where it hits the ground. For the first part its going to be

Ki + Ui = Kf + Uf
the intial potential energy is going to be zero.
I used this equation to find the max height it reached and i got 4.78m.

Then i used the equation again except this time it has to final potential energy. I used 26.9 as my height and solved for the final velocity. And i got 22.9m/s. But the thing keeps telling me i am close. I tried to find the answer using kinematics and i got the same answer. Can some one tell me if i am doing something wrong.

Thanks
 
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Think about what you just wrote. If he is 22.1 meters up on a building, and throw the ball up at an angle, how can the maximum height reached be equal to 4.78meters? 26.87 sounds about right. As for the speed before it hits the ground, it is influenced by projectile motion, which means it has a component of velocity in the +x direction as well. Take that into account by using sqrt(x^2+y^2) to find the magnitude of the net resultant velocity just before impact. Hopefully that will find your mistake.
 
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But i am assuming that the point where he threw the ball is the origin, and the the distance below is -22.1m.
 
But most likely the question assumes the orgin as the ground, not the top of the building, unless it explicitly says so.
 
Well, actually, reading it a second time, it seems that all you care about is the final velocity before impact. If you did your y component right, try factoring in the x-component, I bet that's what you neglected. And see if it pans out or not.
 
Yes you are right, i for got to take the x-component into consideration. I was just giving the y-component of velocity.

Thanks
 
cool, no problem. Are you using webassigns.net? my friend uses that for his online physics homework, just curious.
 
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