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The discussion centers on understanding the concept of vectors and matrices, particularly in relation to linear dependence and rank. The set of vectors {v1, v2, v3, v4} is determined to be linearly dependent if the row-reduced form of the matrix formed by these vectors has a rank less than 4. The participants clarify that the matrix should be structured with the vectors as columns, and emphasize the importance of row reduction in determining linear dependence.

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Hi ,
I have hard time understanding the concept of vector, matriecs in relation with rank and independent/dependent columns / rows.
I have two question that I would like to have help:
The set of vectors {v1,v2,v3,v4} would be linearly dependent if
1-v3 is the zero vector
2- each of the vectors is in R3
3- the row reduced form of the matrix whose columns are the given vectors has rank less than 4
4-the row reduced form of the matrix whose rows are the given vectors has rank less than 4
5- any of the above would imply dependence

I would chose 3 or 4:
Please can you help me to define the expressions "the row reduced form of the matrix whose columns are the given vectors"
Is that means that the matrix would be like
[a b c d]
[e f g h]
[i j k l ]
where a,e,i are the coordinates of v1
b,f,j are components of v2
c,g,k are components of v3
d,h,l are components of v4?
Thank you very much
B.
 
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brad sue said:
Hi ,
I have hard time understanding the concept of vector, matriecs in relation with rank and independent/dependent columns / rows.
I have two question that I would like to have help:
The set of vectors {v1,v2,v3,v4} would be linearly dependent if
1-v3 is the zero vector
2- each of the vectors is in R3
3- the row reduced form of the matrix whose columns are the given vectors has rank less than 4
4-the row reduced form of the matrix whose rows are the given vectors has rank less than 4
5- any of the above would imply dependence

I would chose 3 or 4:[\quote]
Be careful- you want dependence, not independence.
]quote]Please can you help me to define the expressions "the row reduced form of the matrix whose columns are the given vectors"
Is that means that the matrix would be like
[a b c d]
[e f g h]
[i j k l ]
where a,e,i are the coordinates of v1
b,f,j are components of v2
c,g,k are components of v3
d,h,l are components of v4?
Thank you very much
B.
That is the "matrix whose columns are the given vectors", now you would need to row-reduce it.
 
HallsofIvy said:
That is the "matrix whose columns are the given vectors", now you would need to row-reduce it.

Thank you very much . But please , can you tell how do I need to reason in order to solve those kind of problem?

Thank you
B
 

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