Determinant problem, matrices wee

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The discussion revolves around a determinant problem involving a 4 x 4 matrix A with a known determinant. The original poster is attempting to find the determinant of a modified matrix that includes a linear combination of its rows.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster describes their attempts to calculate the determinant after modifying one of the rows by adding a multiple of another row. They express confusion about the effects of this operation on the determinant.
  • Some participants suggest using the linearity of the determinant to approach the problem, while others clarify the implications of row swaps on the determinant's sign.

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The discussion is active, with participants exploring different aspects of determinant properties. Guidance regarding the linearity of determinants has been provided, and some clarification on the effects of row swaps has been discussed. There is no explicit consensus yet on the original poster's specific question.

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The original poster has successfully completed earlier parts of the problem but is seeking help specifically for part c. There is an indication of confusion regarding the operations on rows and their impact on the determinant.

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Determinant problem, matrices! wee!

Hello everyone...
I got part a, and b, and I'm stuck on c...
Suppose that a 4 x 4 matrix A with rows v_1, v_2, v_3, and v_4 has determinant det A = -6. Find the following determinants determinants:

det[v_1 v_2 v_3 v_4 + 7*v_2]^T = ?
I made it Transposed so its more readable...really it is just
determinant of
v_1
v_2
v_3
v_4 + 7*v_2

I tried 7*-6 = -42 which was wrong, because if u multiply a column by a constant, it just mutlipies the matrix by that constant, but i don't know what happens if u multip[ly a constant to a a row, and then add it to another row..
Any ideas?
If ur confused on what I'm talking about, here is an answer to part a:
5*v_1
v_2
v_3
v_4

det of that matrix is: 5*-6 = -30;

and part b:
v_4
v_3
v_2
v_1
det of that matrix is 6, because if u swap rows, it will change the sign of the detemrinant.
 
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You can use the (multi)linearity of the determinant:

[tex]\left| {\begin{array}{*{20}c}<br /> {a_{11} } & {a_{12} } \\<br /> {\alpha a_{21} + \beta a_{21} ^\prime } & {\alpha a_{22} + \beta a_{22} ^\prime } \\<br /> \end{array}} \right| = \alpha \left| {\begin{array}{*{20}c}<br /> {a_{11} } & {a_{12} } \\<br /> {a_{21} } & {a_{22} } \\<br /> \end{array}} \right| + \beta \left| {\begin{array}{*{20}c}<br /> {a_{11} } & {a_{12} } \\<br /> {a_{21} ^\prime } & {a_{22} ^\prime } \\<br /> \end{array}} \right|[/tex]

By the way, for b: mind that every single row-swap changes the sign, so an even number of swaps...
 
thank u TD! but when u said for part b...if its a even number of swaps, wouldn't the determinatant not be changedf at all? it would go from -6 to 6 to -6 to 6, oh wait yah it would thanks!
 
mr_coffee said:
thank u TD! but when u said for part b...if its a even number of swaps, wouldn't the determinatant not be changedf at all? it would go from -6 to 6 to -6 to 6, oh wait yah it would thanks!
Indeed :wink:
 

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