Is the Concept of a Positron Traveling Backwards in Time Still Accepted in QED?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the concept of positrons as electrons traveling backwards in time within the framework of Quantum Electrodynamics (QED). Participants explore the acceptance and relevance of this idea in contemporary physics, particularly in relation to Feynman diagrams and its implications in real-world applications.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that the concept of antiparticles moving backward in time is still taught in the context of Feynman diagrams.
  • There is a question about whether this idea is limited to theoretical constructs like Feynman diagrams or if it has practical applications in the real world.
  • One participant suggests that the use of space-time or Minkowski space is relevant to the discussion, but defers to physicists regarding its real-world applicability.
  • Another participant mentions that while the idea of particles traveling backward in time is valid, the current preference is to discuss electrons and positrons as moving forward in time, although both perspectives are considered equivalent.
  • A later reply introduces the notion of QED being CPT invariant and CT invariant, suggesting that scattering experiments would yield identical results if time were reversed and electrons became positrons simultaneously.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of familiarity with the concept and its current acceptance, indicating that there is no clear consensus on its relevance in modern physics education or practice.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the dependence on specific interpretations of QED and the potential differences in teaching approaches within advanced physics courses.

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This discussion may be of interest to students and professionals in physics, particularly those exploring concepts in quantum mechanics and particle physics.

QueenFisher
i read QED the other day, and was wondering, is the idea that a positron is an electron traveling backwards in time still generally accepted?? cos i know he gave the lectures a while back, and lots of things have changed since then, but it stuck me as an interesting concept.




p.s. i may have put this in the wrong forum again. sorry if i did.:blushing:
 
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is it only in the context of Feynamn diagrams? is it because they use space and time? or can you use it in the 'real' world as well?
 
Hi guys,

The statement that particles traveling backwards in time correspond to antiparticles traveling forwards in time is a valid one. In fact, some of the greats, like Feynman, preferred the evocative language of electrons moving forward and backward in time, but mostly now days people prefer to talk about electrons and positrons all moving forward in time. The two are equivalent, however.
 
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It's definitely not a concept I use everyday as an engineer, and I have been away from academia for awhile, so I am not familiar with what is being taught in the advanced physics courses.

Thanks, Physics Monkey!
 
QED is not only CPT invariant, but also CT invariant. This means that scattering experiments (for example) are identical if time "flew" backwards and all electrons became positrons at the same time.

Daniel.
 

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