Calculating Empirical Formula | Antimony & Sulfur Reaction

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The discussion revolves around calculating the empirical formula of a compound formed from the reaction of antimony and sulfur. Participants explore the steps necessary to determine the empirical formula based on given masses and the concept of conservation of mass.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about how to start the problem, particularly because they were only given examples involving known masses of each compound.
  • Another participant points out that antimony is an element and emphasizes the importance of converting the weights to moles to find the empirical formula.
  • A participant questions how to determine the weight of sulfur in the compound without knowing what the compound is, raising concerns about the charge of antimony.
  • Another reply suggests that the problem can be simplified using the law of conservation of mass, indicating that the mass of sulfur can be inferred from the total mass of the compound and the mass of antimony.
  • A later reply clarifies that since antimony is reacted with excess sulfur, it can be assumed that all of the antimony is in the final product, and any additional mass must be due to sulfur.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the approach of using conservation of mass to determine the mass of sulfur in the compound, but there remains uncertainty regarding the specifics of the calculations and the assumptions needed to proceed.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the charge of antimony and how to interpret the mass of sulfur in the compound without knowing its exact composition.

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When 2.435g of Antinomy is heated with excess sulfur, a chemical reaction occurs. The excess sulfur is driven off, leaving only the compound. If 3.397g of the compound are prduced, what is the empricial formula of the compound?

:frown: I am not even sure where to begin with this question because we were only given examples of how to do the empirical formuala when given the masses of each compound. Could someone please give me a hand of hwo to get started! Thank you
 
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Antimony is an element, not a compound. It's trivial, but it may be important if you are asked this.

Anyway, the trick here is to convert all the weights (that was expressed in grams), including the mass of sulfur in the "compound", to their respective mole amounts. You'll understand this was easy part of the question when you are acutally making the "empirical" formula of said "compound"

good luck!
 
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I am not understanding how I am supposed to covert the weight of sulfur in the compound if I don't know what the compound is. Is is Antimony + Sulfur? And if it is, how am I supposed to know what the charge of Antimony is?
 
You are making it more complicated than it should. You don't have to "know" the compound to find the wieght of sulfur in the compound, you can do this in another very familiar way, which is called the law of conservation of mass and the empirical formula. The problem mentions these clues.

1. The antimony "in our box" reacts with "excess" sulfur.
2. The "excess" sulfur is then driven out.
3. Only the compound "in our box" remains.

Do you remember the law of conservation of mass?
 
extraordinarygirl, to clarify what Umabel is saying, there's an assumption you need to make in solving this problem that should help a lot. Since it says antimony is reacted with excess sulfur, you can assume that ALL of the antimony is in your final product. Therefore, any additional mass in the final compound is due to the sulfur in the compound. That should help figure out how to calculate the number of moles of reactants and products.
 

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