Maximizing a Trigonometric Function: How to Use the First Derivative Test

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The discussion revolves around maximizing the trigonometric function f(x) = sin(x) / (1 + cos²(x)) using the first derivative test. Participants are exploring the application of derivative tests in the context of trigonometric functions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the first derivative test and its application to find maximum and minimum values. Questions arise regarding the differentiation process, particularly with the term 1 + cos²(x). There is also a mention of confusion about the first derivative test compared to the second derivative test.

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Some participants have provided guidance on differentiating the function using the quotient rule and chain rule. There is an ongoing exploration of setting the derivative equal to zero and identifying potential solutions, with acknowledgment of the complexity introduced by the trigonometric components.

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One participant notes that the original post should be in the homework section, indicating a potential misunderstanding of forum guidelines. There is also a mention of limitations in understanding trigonometric functions without a calculator, which may affect the discussion.

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Hi I need help using the First derivative test on this problem: f(x)= sinx divided by 1 + cos^2x . any help would be awesome.:confused:
 
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What's the first derivative test?
I've heard of the second derivative test... but never the first..
Do you mean finding the minimum/maximum?
 
yes That is what I eventually need, I can usually get the answer after I find f '(x) but the 1+ cos^2x is the part I can't figure out can you help?
 
OK,
First, this should be in the homework section, but nobody likes a slut, so just disregard this sentence. :D
f(x) = [sin x]/(1 + cos^2 x)
Differentiate using the quotient rule and the chain rule.. (for cos^2 x, which would mean (cos x)^2 which would give you the derivative 2(-sin x)(cos x) = -2sin x cos x)
Thus, you have:
f'(x) = (cos x)(1 + cos^2 x) + 2 sin^2 x cos x all over (1 + cos^2 x)^2...
Set that equal to 0 and ignore the denominator for the moment... and see what solutions you get...
Chances are one of them might just be when 1 + cos^2 x = 0 (I don't know anything about trig functions more than the basics without a calculator, so don't approach me and prove me wrong, I'm trying to help :P) and... yeah... I guess that'll be an asymptote...
Hope this helped some.
 
Thank you for your help that made more since than what I got from class :P
 

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