Fourier Series and Convergence for f(x) = 1 and g(x) = x on the Interval [0, pi]

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The discussion revolves around finding the Fourier Series for the function f(x) = 1 on the interval [0, π] and using it to derive a convergent series for the function g(x) = x. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the integration of the series and the correctness of their Fourier coefficients.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the Fourier coefficients and expresses uncertainty about integrating the series. They question how to find a convergent series for g(x) = x.
  • Some participants discuss the conditions under which series can be integrated term by term, referencing Taylor series as an example.
  • There is a query regarding the relationship between the logarithmic series and the original problem, as well as whether a Taylor expansion of sine or cosine is necessary.
  • Further questions arise about the discrepancy between the original poster's Fourier series and the solution provided in their textbook, particularly regarding the use of odd integers in the series.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the Fourier series and questioning the assumptions made in the textbook solution. There is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the original poster's series or the reasoning behind the textbook's alternative form.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating through potential assumptions about the completeness of the sine functions and the implications of integrating series. The original poster is also dealing with the constraints of their homework guidelines and the need for clarity on the definitions used in their calculations.

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Find the Fourier Series for f(x) =1 on the interval 0<= x <= pi in terms of [itex]\phi_{n} = \sin{nx}[/itex]. Bu integrating this series find a convergent series for the function g(x) =x on this interval assuming the set {sin nx} is complete
Ok for the FOurier Coefficients
[tex]c_{n} = \frac{\int_{0}^{\pi} f \phi \rho dx}{\int_{0}^{\pi} \phi^2} dx[/tex]
this is how it is in my test
rho is suppsod to be the weight
ok for the numerator
[tex]\int_{0}^{\pi} \sin{nx} dx = \frac{1}{n} [- \cos{nx}]_{0}^{\pi} = (-1)^n + 1[/tex]
for hte denominator
[tex]\int_{0}^{\pi} (\sin{nx})^2 dx = \frac{\pi}{2} - \frac{\sin{2n \pi}}{4} =\frac{\pi}{2}[/tex]
so the Fourier series is
[tex]\frac{2}{\pi} \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{\sin{nx}}{n} (-1^n + 1)[/tex]
what do they mean by integrate the series? Does it mena i should integrate the argument of this sum? ANd how would one find a convergent series for the function g(x) =x??
Please help!
 
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Yep, under certain conditions you can integrate a series term by term. E.g.

Taylor series for [itex]\frac{1}{1+x}[/itex] with [itex]\mod{x}<1[/itex] is

[tex]\frac{1}{1+x}=1-x+x^{2}-x^{3}+x^{4}-...[/tex]

and converges. Integrating it term by term one gets a convergent series for [itex]\ln\left(1+x\right)[/itex].

Daniel.

BTW, where din that [itex]\frac{1}{n}[/itex] from integrating [itex]\sin nx[/itex] go?
 
but how would the ln(1/1+x) relate to my problem?? DO you mena i am supposed to expand the sin or cos by taylor series?>?

i have edited to include that 1/n of the sine


is my FOurier Series correct? The back of my book states something else:
[tex]\frac{4}{\pi} \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{\sin{2k-1}x}{2k-1}[/tex]

im not sure how they got this...
 
how does what is in the text post #3 relate to what i got?

It is similar in that i do have the sine part except what about the -1^n +1 part ? It appears the book has assumed n to be even ... why??
Also why has the book gotten 2k-1 instead of n? If n is supposed to be even then why is 2k-1, an odd number, used as n in the same argument?
 

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