Solve Homework: Springs & Pendulums

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The discussion revolves around two homework problems related to springs and pendulums. The first problem involves determining the mass of a second block attached to a spring based on its extension, while the second problem focuses on the timing of a pendulum's greatest speed after being released from rest.

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  • Participants discuss Hooke's Law in relation to the first problem, exploring the balance of forces and the implications of spring extension. Questions arise about the correctness of the approach and the calculations involved. For the second problem, there is a focus on the relationship between the pendulum's length and its period, with participants questioning their application of the formulas.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the formulas relevant to both problems, while others express confusion about their calculations. There is an acknowledgment of a potential typo in the formulas used for the pendulum, and one participant reports successfully finding the correct answer for the second problem.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the amount of direct assistance they can receive. There is an ongoing exploration of assumptions related to the spring and pendulum setups.

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I have two homework problems that I'm really stuck on. Can someone please help me out? Thanks!

1) A 0.55-kg block is hung from and stretches a spring that is attached to the ceiling. A second block is attached to the first one, and the amount that the spring stretches from its unstretched length triples. What is the mass of the second block?

2) A simple pendulum is made from a 0.655-m-long string and a small ball attached to its free end. The ball is pulled to one side through a small angle and then released from rest. After the ball is released, how much time elapses before it attains its greatest speed?
 
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1. What do you know about Hooke's Law? For the first part, m1g = k(x-xo), meaning the weight is balanced by the spring force. For the second part, m2g = k(3(x-xo)), reflecting the tripled spring extension. Since it's the same spring, the value of k does not change. Solve for m2.

2. The pendulum has its greatest speed at its lowest point (when all of the gravitational potential energy is converted to kinetic energy). You should know a formula that relates the period of oscillation to the length of the pendulum. Use this to calculate the period, then realize that the pendulum reaches the bottom of its trajectory at t = T/4.
 
I still can't get an answer for the first one. I was told to try using a formula like this:

g(m+mx)=-K3x
g(m+mx)=3(-kx)
g(m+mx)=3mg
m+mx=3m
mx=?

But I keep coming up with 7.1 kg which sounds way off. Ughh what am I doing wrong?!
 
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I still can't get an answer for the first one. I was told to try using a formula like this:

g(m+mx)=-K3x
g(m+mx)=3(-kx)
g(m+mx)=3mg
m+mx=3m
mx=?

But I keep coming up with 7.1 kg which sounds way off. Ughh what am I doing wrong?!

What you've written out is fine, assuming mx is a variable meaning the added mass. When you solve that last line, don't you come up with mx = 2m? Just plug in m = .55 kg and that's all there is to it. (mx = 1.1 kg)
 
Ok, I understand the first problem but I'm not so sure about the second one. I used the formula:

w= sqrt g/L
w=2pi/T
T=2piw

I keep getting the answer .52 but I'm sure I'm doing something wrong on this one too. Ughhhhh!
 
It may have been a typo, but you should have:

[itex]T = \frac{2\pi}{\omega} = 2\pi \sqrt{\frac{l}{g}}[/itex]

Just plug in the right numbers to find T, then remember that the answer to the question is t = T/4.
 
Ok, thanks! I got the correct answer of 0.41 seconds! :)
 

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