How can I determine the speed of a bullet using rotation?

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The discussion revolves around determining the speed of a bullet using two rotating paper disks positioned a specific distance apart. Participants explore the relationship between angular displacement, rotational speed, and the time taken for the bullet to pass through the disks.

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  • Participants discuss the conversion of angular displacement to radians and the calculation of displacement using angular relationships. There are inquiries about the correct formulas to use and the need to find the time taken for the bullet to pass between the disks.

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Some participants have provided hints regarding the relationship between angular displacement and time, while others have shared equations of motion. There is an ongoing exploration of the concepts involved, but no explicit consensus has been reached on the correct approach.

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Participants are working with specific measurements, such as the distance between the disks and the rotational speed, but there are indications of uncertainty regarding the application of formulas and the interpretation of the problem setup.

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The speed of a moving bullet can be deter-
mined by allowing the bullet to pass through
two rotating paper disks mounted a distance
69:1 cm apart on the same axle. From the
angular displacement 39:7 ± of the two bul-
let holes in the disks and the rotational speed
596 rev=min of the disks, we can determine
the speed v of the bullet. Find the speed v of the bullet.

Can anyone help me with this problem
 
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Can you show what work you have done on this ?

If you show us some working, we can sort out any mistakes and add suggestions.
 
Fermat said:
Can you show what work you have done on this ?
If you show us some working, we can sort out any mistakes and add suggestions.



firstly, i converted the angle to radians. I then tried to find the displacement using (theta *r),...and then the velocity. But i don't think I'm using the right formula because the final answer does not look right.
 
You want to find the speed of the bullet, that is the question.

You are given the distance between the two discs. 69.1 cm.
All you need now is to find the time it took the bullet to pass from one disc to the next.

What is tha angular velocity of the rotating discs ?
What is the angular displacement the disc(s) have gone through while the bullet has passed through ?
How much time did it take to go through this angular displacement ?

Hint: θ = ωt
 
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Fermat said:
You want to find the speed of the bullet, that is the question.
You are given the distance between the two discs. 69.1 cm.
All you need now is to find the time it took the bullet to pass from one disc to the next.
What is tha angular velocity of the rotating discs ?
What is the angular displacement the disc(s) have gone through while the bullet has passed through ?
How much time did it take to go through this angular displacement ?
Hint: θ = ωt



thanks. I've worked it out. Thanks a lot again. So angular displacement= angular velocity *time. And since time is scalar, its the same for the angular velocity, velocity, angular acceleration. etc. right? thank you
 
Rotational eqns of motion are very similar to linear eqns of motion.

Linear
s = ut + ½at²
v² = u² + 2as
v = u + at

Rotational
θ = ωt + ½αt²
ωf² = ωi² + 2αθ
ωf = ωi + αt
 
Fermat said:
Rotational eqns of motion are very similar to linear eqns of motion.
Linear
s = ut + ½at²
v² = u² + 2as
v = u + at
Rotational
θ = ωt + ½αt²
ωf² = ωi² + 2αθ
ωf = ωi + αt


that didn't answer my question, but thanks regardless
 
Sorry, skinnyabbey, bit I wasn't at all sure what your question was, so I posted some general info about rotational and linear eqns of motion.

You said, "And since time is scalar, its the same for the angular velocity, velocity, angular acceleration. etc. right?"

What is it that is supposed to be the same for ...
 
Δθ/Δt=ω
t=θ/ω
t=given angle/(rpm*360 degrees/60 seconds)

x=v(avg)t
v=x(given)/t(solved for above)
 

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