Calculating Errors: Adding, Subtracting, Multiplying & More

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The discussion revolves around calculating errors in measurements, specifically focusing on how to add, subtract, multiply, and divide different types of errors. The original poster presents examples involving length and mass errors, seeking clarification on the impact of these operations on the associated uncertainties.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the methods for combining errors, questioning the differences between absolute deviations and standard deviations. There are inquiries about how to handle errors in various mathematical operations, including addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing resources and differing perspectives on error analysis. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of absolute versus standard deviations, but no consensus has been reached on the best approach for the original poster's examples.

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There is mention of specific examples involving length and mass errors, as well as the conversion of absolute errors to percentage errors. Participants express the complexity of error analysis in practical lab settings.

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Just want to get a straight answear if possible..

How dou you add different types of errors.


lets say I have and length error of 2 +-1 and another of 5+-2

what happens to the error when I add/subtract...multiply/divide...square/sqrt ?

then If I have and length error of 2+-1 and a mass error of 20+-1 and first I change the absolut error to percentage, and then what happens when I:
add/subtract...multiply/divide...square/sqrt ?

Doing lot's of labs and just need some clarification on this..

would be nice if someone could show how to with these examples... thanks a lot guys & girls
 
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personaly i think error analysis is a real pain to calculate sometimes, cause you have to carry over all the +- uncertainties.

try this link

http://www.smccd.net/accounts/goodman/physics/p270/p270_labhandouts/unknown_mass.pdf

read pages 2-4. Once you do the practice problem on page 4, you should be good to go.
 
Just be careful with this, since the formulas given correspond to the case of using absolute deviations to express the errors. More often, people use standard deviations, in which case the errors are combined differently (for addition, subtraction and product, the relative uncertainties are added in quadrature).

This may help to clarify the difference: http://www.rit.edu/~uphysics/uncertainties/Uncertaintiespart2.html#addsub
 
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To explain the difference between using absolute deviations and standard deviations, let's just say that by using absolute deviations, you assume the worst case scenario. Since data usually is distributed (as as such, errors), it therefore must be partially governed by a stardard deviation. Hence being added in a quardrature gives the uncertainty from a probablistic point of view.
 

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