Solving Point Charge Impact Time on Grounded Plane

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The problem involves a point charge released from rest at a distance from a grounded infinite conducting plane, with the goal of determining the time it takes for the charge to hit the plane. The discussion centers around the dynamics of the charge and the forces acting on it, leading to a second-order nonlinear differential equation.

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  • Participants discuss the use of energy considerations and the method of images to derive the potential function. There are attempts to solve the differential equation and integrate to find the time of impact, with varying degrees of success.

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The discussion is ongoing, with some participants providing insights into the equations involved and suggesting methods for solving the problem. There is recognition of challenges faced in solving the differential equation, and some participants indicate that their previous attempts have yielded different results.

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Participants note the importance of the grounded condition of the conducting plane and the implications for the potential function, as well as the challenges posed by the nonlinear nature of the equation.

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A point charge (q, mass m) is released from rest at a distance d from a grouned infinite conducting plane. How long does it take to hit the plane?
Answer pi*(d/q)*sqrt(2pi*eps m d)
This problem seemed easy to me at very, but it leads to a second order nonlinear equation
[tex]m\frac{d^2 z}{dt^2} = \frac{q^2}{16 \pi \epsilon_0 z^2}[/tex].

I tried using energy considerations to write v as v(z), I then solved for z as z(v), and integrated the above equation for v(t), putting in the limits 0 and infinity. This did not give the correct answer, although it appeared to be close. Any suggestions?
 
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I haven't actually worked out the problem, so I'm not sure if the right side of your equation is correct. Just as a note incase you didn't do this - since the infinite conducting plane is grounded, you need to use the method of images to get your potential function.
 
Maple choked on the d.e. but, you should be able to show
v2 = 2c(1/z - 1/d) with c = q2/(16 Pi Eps0 m)
with conservation of energy or integrating the force equation once.
now to solve for time put solve for v and use the positive root,
the negative one leads to t<0.
thus [tex]t = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2c}} \int_d^0 \sqrt{ \frac{ dz}{ d - z}} \. d z[/tex]
The substitution z = d cos2(theta) makes this doable.
 
Yeah, that's what I indicated I tried above. It appeared to fail the first time I did it, but the second time it worked out.
Thanks!
 

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