Is time in the universe constant?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of time in relation to motion, particularly at high speeds, and whether it is possible for different observers to experience time differently. Participants explore ideas related to time dilation, the implications of traveling at or near the speed of light, and the potential for time travel or differing time experiences in various locations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that moving at high speeds could lead to a perception of time slowing down and questions how this would appear to an observer.
  • Another participant asserts that time is observer dependent, indicating that two observers may not have synchronized clocks after a journey, depending on their relative motion.
  • There is a mention of two types of time dilation: symmetrical, caused by relative motion, and asymmetrical, caused by gravity, with an emphasis on the relativity of time perception.
  • One participant challenges the initial framing of the question, suggesting confusion between time and physical motion, using a bus ride as an analogy.
  • It is noted that according to relativity, traveling at sub-light speeds does not result in time travel, although aging at different rates is possible.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of time and its relationship to motion, with no consensus reached on the implications of these ideas or the potential for time travel. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the complexities of time perception and the effects of speed on time.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the concepts discussed, particularly regarding the implications of time dilation and the conditions under which different observers may experience time differently. There are references to potential misunderstandings of relativity and the nature of time itself.

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I'm thinking of a way to defend my authroity against a peer who has threaten to take me down in a debate (LOL).
Im I am thinking, say your moving close at the speed of sound, and then you suddenly stop, time around you is supposed to get slower, and potentially go back in time. How would it seem to be an observer? WOuld you seen slower than you actually are moving? Would everything int he universe get slower to keep up with you speed? That would form a paradox, just about everything int he universe is moving at different speeds, how would this be possible?

My question is would it be possible to have 2 different times in two different places? If not... then say after this 'trip' the two people (observer and the runner) meets up, would the runner meet the observer in the past? This concept, i just can't understand.
 
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Most of the first half of your post doesn't make a whole lot of sense, but...
cosmic time said:
My question is would it be possible to have 2 different times in two different places?
Certainly. Time is observer dependent.
If not... then say after this 'trip' the two people (observer and the runner) meets up, would the runner meet the observer in the past? This concept, i just can't understand.
Two people who start out next to each other with synchronized clocks may or may not have synchronized clocks at the end of their "trip".
 
cosmic time said:
Im I am thinking, say your moving close at the speed of sound, and then you suddenly stop, time around you is supposed to get slower...

Sounds like you are thinking of the speed of light.

cosmic time said:
...and potentially go back in time.

Sounds like you are recalling something someone told you about traveling faster than light (just not very well).

cosmic time said:
How would it seem to be an observer? WOuld you seen slower than you actually are moving? Would everything int he universe get slower to keep up with you speed?

I understand relativity by thinking of two types of time dilation. One that is symmetrical, caused by relative motion where you see each other's clocks go slower than your own. One that is asymmetrical in that you can both agree on who is running slow, caused by gravity. Your own clocks never seem odd until you compare it to someone elses, going at a different speed.

When a physicist says "clock" in relativity, it normally means the underlying time-system rather than just a mechanical device prone to error.

cosmic time said:
That would form a paradox, just about everything int he universe is moving at different speeds, how would this be possible?

Through the behaviour as described by the theories of relativity.

cosmic time said:
My question is would it be possible to have 2 different times in two different places? If not... then say after this 'trip' the two people (observer and the runner) meets up, would the runner meet the observer in the past? This concept, i just can't understand.

According to relativity, if they both travel at sub-light speeds there is no time travel going on. Aging at different speeds is allowed though.
 
Im I am thinking, say your moving close at the speed of sound, and then you suddenly stop, time around you is supposed to get slower, and potentially go back in time.
apparently you are confussing time with a bus ride, when a bus stops suddenly every thing falls forward. well it is way complicated then that
 

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