How is Work Calculated When Walking Up a Hill?

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The discussion revolves around calculating work done while walking up a hill, specifically in the context of a man carrying a bag weighing 10 kg and ascending 10 vertical meters. The participants explore the relationship between vertical and horizontal displacements in the work equation.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the formula for work and the significance of displacement in the direction of the force. There are questions about whether horizontal displacement should be considered in the calculation of work done against gravity.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants offering insights into the nature of work done by the man and gravity. Some guidance has been provided regarding the focus on vertical displacement, but there remains uncertainty about the implications of horizontal movement.

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There is a mention of the absence of friction and the angle of ascent, which may influence the interpretation of forces involved in the work calculation.

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A man is carrying a bag that weighs 10 kg. He's walking up a hill, when he stops he is 10 vertical meters higher. g = 9,8. I now have to find the work that's been done on the bag. I have W = m*g*d
How do I find d?
 
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d is the displacement against the force of gravity. Gravity acts in the vertical direction.

I recommend you actually learn what the letters really mean instead of just plugging things into formulas.
 
you mean that its mass is 10kg?
in the work equation, you have to find the distance in the direction of the force.
 
yes it's mass is 10kg. I know what displacement is, but he's not just moving in the vertical, but also the horizontal. His start coordinates are (0,0) and at the end (?,10). Surely it's not only the vertical displacement that I have to find? Or am I wrong?
 
It says
when he stops he is 10 vertical meters higher

10 VERTICAL meters higher, start = (x1,y), end = (x2,y+10)
 
Is there any resistance in the horizontal displacement. Is a force needed to move in that direction? You only need the distance in the direction of the applied force.
 
Ok, so the horizontal displacement does not count here? The work done by the man on the bag is the same as the work done by gravity on the bag?
Thanks for taking the time to help me.

No, there's no friction. I asked because he's walking upwards with an angle. But if I only need the vertical displacement, then it's piece of cake.
 
NO!

The Work done by the man is POSITIVE,
since the Force by the man is in the SAME sense of direction as the motion.
The Work done by gravity is NEGATIVE,
since gravity is in the OPPOSITE sense of diraction as the motion.

Only the Force component PARALLEL to the motion does any Work. or,
Work is only done thru the displacement component PARALLEL to the Force.
 

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