Einstein's Nobel Prize for Photo-Electric Effect

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The discussion centers on why Albert Einstein received the Nobel Prize for the photo-electric effect rather than for his theories of relativity. Participants explore the implications of this decision, considering factors such as experimental validation and the nature of the theories involved.

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  • Some participants suggest that the Nobel Prize was awarded for the photo-electric effect due to its direct experimental connection, contrasting it with the more theoretical nature of relativity.
  • Others argue that the Nobel committee has historically favored experimental evidence, citing examples of delayed prizes for quantum theorists until their ideas were empirically validated.
  • One participant presents a viewpoint that distinguishes between special/general relativity and quantum mechanics, suggesting that the Nobel Prize reflects a preference for fundamental physics over mathematical theories.
  • A later reply speculates that political factors, including Einstein's association with nuclear weapons, may have influenced the timing of his recognition and suggests that he might have received a second prize if posthumous awards were permitted.

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Participants express differing views on the reasons behind the Nobel Prize decision, with no consensus reached regarding the influence of experimental evidence versus political considerations.

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Some claims depend on interpretations of the Nobel committee's criteria and the historical context of Einstein's work, which remain unresolved in the discussion.

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Its a well known fact the Einstein didn't receive his nobel prize for Relativity but instead he got it for his work on the photo-electric effect. Why is this? Is it because Relativity was less creative than photo-electric effect?
 
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In my opinion it was due to the direct connection with experiment of the pohoto-electric effect. The Nobel committee then and now is suspicious of theory that doesn't tie to experiment. You will find that many quantum theorist's prizes (Pauli, Born) were delayed a long time until unmistakeable evidence for theose crazy quantum ideas turned up in the labs.
 
*** Einstein's Nobel prize:- SR/GR vs. QM ***

Politically Correct Answer:

SR/GR is about basic Mathematics (e.g. Speed = c iff Mass = 0)

and

QM is about Fundamental Physics (e.g. photo-electric effect)...


So, Einstein's Nobel prize is associated with QM, instead of SR/GR.


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THe Nobel committee is not allowed to present prizes posthumously, otherwise Al would definitely have received a second prize. It is speculated that his unfavorable (and unfair) attachment to "the bomb" deferred his selection for a few crucial years (the Nobel comittee is still somewhat political). I don't think that there is any direct evidence of his being eschewed.
 

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