Solution by variation of parameters

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The discussion revolves around the method of variation of parameters in solving differential equations, specifically addressing the conditions and reasoning behind the method's application.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants express confusion about the necessity of certain conditions in the method, particularly the requirement that u and v satisfy a specific condition. They also question the omission of constants of integration when finding a particular solution.

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Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the method, noting that the condition imposed simplifies the resulting equations and that the focus is on finding a particular solution, which does not include arbitrary constants. However, multiple interpretations and further questions remain open for exploration.

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Participants acknowledge that the method allows for an infinite number of functions, and the specific condition helps streamline the process, although the implications of this choice are still being discussed.

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i'm confused about that method:

1) when proving that method works, why do you have to make u and v satisfy the 2nd condition u`y1+v`y2=0

2) when you're integrating to find yp, why do you leave out the constant that results from the integration?
 
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asdf1 said:
i'm confused about that method:
1) when proving that method works, why do you have to make u and v satisfy the 2nd condition u`y1+v`y2=0
2) when you're integrating to find yp, why do you leave out the constant that results from the integration?

When you let:

[tex]y=A(x)y_1(x)+B(x)y_2(x)[/tex]

where [itex]y_1(x)[/itex] and [itex]y_2(x)[/itex] are solutions to the homogeneous equation, and you substitute that into:

[tex]y^{''}+p(x)y^{'}+q(x)y=R(x)[/tex]

Letting:

[tex]A^{'}y_1+B^{'}y_2=0[/tex]

reduces the complexity of the resulting equation to the simplified form:

[tex]A^{'}y_1^{'}+B^{'}y_2^{'}=R(x)[/tex]

Technically you could let it be any non-zero function but zero makes the math easier.

As far as ignoring the constants of integration, note you're looking only for a particular solution to the original DE right: homogeneous part+particular part=solution. And a partcular solution does not contain any arbitrary constants.
 
thank you very much for clearing those things up! :)
 
Remember that there are, in general, an infinite number of functions
A(x), B(x) such that [tex]y=A(x)y_1(x)+B(x)y_2(x)[/tex]
Requiring that [tex]A'y_1+ B'y_2= 0[/tex]
just "narrows the field" and guaranties that there will not be any second derivatives of A or B in the final equations.
 
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thank you very much! :)
 

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