Modern vs. Traditional Psychology

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The discussion explores the comparison between modern psychology, particularly the theories of figures like Jung and Freud, and psychological concepts found in various mystical traditions, such as Buddhism. Participants question the effectiveness and definitions of both approaches, while also engaging in a light-hearted critique of Freud's theories.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that modern psychology is superior to traditional methods, citing outdated practices in traditional psychology.
  • There is a request for clarification on what constitutes traditional psychology, indicating a lack of consensus on definitions.
  • Humor is used to critique Freud's theories, with participants expressing skepticism about the validity of his analyses.
  • Some participants express admiration for Buddhist psychology, noting its insightful perspectives.
  • There is a recurring theme of questioning the credibility of Freud's ideas, particularly regarding his views on women and family dynamics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express disagreement regarding the value and definitions of modern versus traditional psychology, with multiple competing views remaining on the effectiveness and relevance of both approaches.

Contextual Notes

Participants struggle with defining 'psychology' itself, which may limit the clarity of the discussion. There are also references to outdated and controversial practices in traditional psychology that are not universally accepted.

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Hi,
What do you guys think about the Psychology found in different mystical traditions versus the shrinks of today who base themselves on Jung, Freud etc ... ? :smile: Is one better than the other? Are they the same?
 
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I think modern is better. The traditional method of electrocuting people who are retarded or crazy is just stupid.

Can you define traditional psychology a bit better? It's not very clear what you mean.
 
LOL though the traditional method has it up points now you mention it Shawn...may have to experiment some traditional psychological method on my friends MUHAHAHAHA!

I'm not sure about this though, having never needed therapy, but it does seem like a long winded process of talking and stuff... besides who would want to listen to a guy who takes advice from a dude that wanted to sleep with his mum??
 
Lol. Yeah, I'm just thinking about it theoretically. In the UK there are like hardly any shrinks. As for the definition - I done a quick search on Google and found
http://www.wynja.com/personality/buddhistpsych.html
which is about the Buddhist psychology compared to modern psychology. If you read it maybe it'd be helpful. I'm finding it hard to define - since I don't know how to define the word 'psychology' itself.
 
I like Buddhists, they always have nice insight.

As Jimmy P mentioned, Freud thought everybody wants to kill their father and sleep with their mother. How fugged is that?
 
I often thought how people ever accepted his analysis...seriously-sick...I'm sure he had own problems

Was it Freud who said he didn't know "what women Want"?
 
well they definitely don't want their own sons...not in THAT way anyway...
 
There's a good chance he said that since every other man in the history of the world has said the exact same thing.
 
jimmy p said:
well they definitely don't want their own sons...not in THAT way anyway...

again...sick..sick..sick :frown:
 
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ShawnD said:
There's a good chance he said that since every other man in the history of the world has said the exact same thing.

:biggrin: Yeah

Yet, he thinks he knows what men want ...
 
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OK, I'm not going to say it but you KNOW what I'm thinking :biggrin:
 
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I'll be the second to say that I do know what women want. The first to say it was some guy on some TV show or something.
"women want everything from one man; men want one thing from every woman"

As true today as it was when it was written :biggrin:
 
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True dat...
 

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