How can I use integrals to find the circumference of an ellipse?

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The discussion revolves around using integrals to calculate the circumference of an ellipse, with two approaches presented. The first method involves rectangular coordinates but raises concerns about the absence of the variable b in the equation. The second method utilizes parametric equations, which seems more promising, yet the user struggles with integrating it effectively. There is uncertainty about whether these integrals can accurately represent the circumference, suggesting the term 'perimeter' might be more appropriate. The conversation highlights the complexity of the topic and the need for further guidance.
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I have two integrals to give the circumference of an ellipse. I can't solve either.
First, using rectangular coordinates,
1/2s=S{[1+(f'(x))^2]^(1/2)}dx taken from x=-a to x=a
Since, y^2=b/a(a^2-x^2)
2y*y'=-2bx/a
y'=-bx/(ay)
[f'(x)]^2=(x^2)/(a^2-x^2)
At this point, I'm already uncomfortable because b is no longer in the equation, and clearly the circumference should depend on both a and b.
Next, using parametrics, I have
s=S[(bcosx)^2+(asinx)^2]^(1/2)dx from x=0 to x=2pi
This integral shows more promise for finding the answer. I expect the answer to be C=pi(a+b) simply because this would reduce to C=(2pi)r for the case when a=b. I've tried manipulating the second integral in every way possible to fit in trig substitution but it just won't work. It doesn't look like integration by parts will help. Of course, there's always the possiblity that these integrals do not give the circumference of an ellipse at all. Even so, it would be satisfying to find an answer.
Can someone give me a hint?
 
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It should not rightly be called the 'circumference,' which is a word reserved for circles. It is better to call it the 'perimeter.'

This is, in fact, a complicated topic. Here's a good resource to get you started:

http://home.att.net/~numericana/answer/ellipse.htm

- Warren
 
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