Do Any Materials Contract with Small Electrical Currents?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the exploration of materials that contract when subjected to small electrical currents, examining various types of materials such as piezoelectric crystals and shape memory alloys. Participants discuss the physical properties necessary for such materials and their potential applications.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about materials that contract with electrical currents and the necessary physical properties.
  • One participant suggests piezoelectric crystals as a potential candidate for contraction and provides images of their arrangements.
  • Shape Memory Alloys, particularly NiTi alloys (nitinol), are mentioned as materials that respond to heat generated by electrical resistance, contracting when current is applied.
  • Another participant notes that piezoelectric ceramics expand with electrical current and produce current when contracted, highlighting their utility in pressure sensors and solid-state generators.
  • There is a discussion about the differences between shape memory alloys and piezoelectric ceramics, with some noting that the former contract while the latter expand with current.
  • One participant humorously suggests using organic materials, like frog legs, as alternatives to synthetic materials for contraction.
  • Questions arise regarding the specifics of piezoelectric ceramics, including how the direction of the current affects deformation and whether the crystal changes volume with current.
  • Participants express curiosity about the degree of deformation possible with these materials and whether there are limits to this deformation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing views regarding the types of materials that can contract with electrical currents, and the discussion remains unresolved with no consensus on a single material or approach.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include uncertainty about the specifications of the materials discussed, the dependence on the direction of current in piezoelectric crystals, and the lack of detailed information on the degree of deformation achievable.

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Are there any materials that contract when a small electrical current is applied to it? What would be the necessary physical properties of such a material?

CJ
 
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Try searching for piezoelectric crystals.

I have some pictures of various arrangments for contraction, expansion, bending, etc. But since 400x400 is the largest I can attach I had to reduce the size and it's not too clear.
 

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Shape Memory Alloys respond to changes in heat and electrical current (due to heat from resistance).

A NiTi alloy (nitinol) seems to be very popular. A google search for nitinol should give you a dozen supplies each spouting pages of technical specs for their products.

Muscle wire is also a good google search topic.

These alloys work very well to make neat little robots (you can buy kits) but I'm not sure how strong or how sensitive the alloys are.
If you find anything that might work as well as organic muscle please tell me about it.
 
Originally posted by wj
If you find anything that might work as well as organic muscle please tell me about it.
hmm, are you suggesting to take a rabbit and apply electric shock to it? Indeed, this might work too
 
How about frog legs. Probably wouldn't require as much current.
 
Depending on the application, piezoelectric ceramics may also be a good option.
 
After looking around a bit, found that piezoelectric ceramics expand with electrical current and produce current when contracted. These properties make them extremely useful for pressure sensors and sonics, as well as solid state generators. Though they can vibrate extremely fast, I think that they only change dimemesions a few mm.

Shape Memory Alloys react to heat, but these heat is generally created by current. These alloys contract when exposed to current, while piezoelectric ceramics expand with current. I don't know the specs for either one.

Since I'm interested in robots, muscle wire is my ElectroMechanic trastformer of choice. Frog legs are stronger but can you imagine decomposing fried frog thumping around your house :)

Plently of Information on piezoelectric ceramics can be found
here-> http://www.morganelectroceramics.com/pzbook.html
 
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...while piezoelectric ceramics expand with current. I don't know the specs for either one.
Depends on which axis of the crystal the current is applied. I know the attachment I posted is a little small to read but it shows different configurations and the lenght(or angle) vs. voltage.

Regards
 
I looked at your attachment. I couldn't read the words but the diagrams are clear. It showed a cube transformed in various ways by current. By changing the location and direction of the current you could shorten (squash), skew, or bend the crystal. Right?

So the cystal can get shorter or longer depending on the dimension you are considering?

Does the cystal change volume with current? I assume that the degree of the deformation varies with current. Is there a peak degree of deformation (like say 25% or 32%)?
 

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