Design a Pendulum Experiment for Grade 12 Physics

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The discussion revolves around designing a pendulum experiment for a Grade 12 physics project, focusing on measuring oscillations accurately and exploring the concept of coupled pendulums. Participants share ideas on measurement techniques and experimental setups.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using a stopwatch to time multiple periods of oscillation to improve accuracy.
  • Another participant questions the feasibility of applying this method to a coupled pendulum experiment, expressing uncertainty about the approach.
  • A participant shares a link to a simulation of coupled pendulums, proposing that the amplitude of oscillations may vary and suggesting the concept of an "envelope" for the oscillations.
  • There is a discussion about the need to measure the periods of both individual pendulums and their envelope, raising concerns about the number of measurements required.
  • One participant inquires whether the distance of a spring connecting the pendulums should be proportional to the length of the string, indicating a need for clarification on setup parameters.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of certainty about the measurement techniques and experimental design, with no clear consensus on the best approach for the coupled pendulum experiment.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the need for multiple measurements to achieve accuracy, but there are unresolved questions regarding the setup and specific relationships between components, such as the spring and string lengths.

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Students and educators interested in experimental physics, particularly those focusing on pendulum dynamics and measurement techniques.

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Hi I'm supposed to come up with a design for a pendulum experiment. I have most of the design figured out but in regards to measuring the oscillation I don't know how to do it accurately aside from using a stopwatch to measure the oscillation(in which case the period would have to be really long). Also, with the pendulum experiment I was thinking of doing a coupled pendulum experiment as well or would it be too difficult. Thanks, btw, I'm in grade 12 I'm doing this as part of my Physics Experiment project.
 
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Time lots of periods (say 30 to 100) with your stopwatch. Get the duration of one period by dividing by the total number of periods.
 
Okay that would make sense but is there another alternative because if I were to do that with the coupled Pendulum experiment I honestly don't know how I would go about doing it.
 
http://www.theorphys.science.ru.nl/people/fasolino/sub_java/pendula/doublependul-en.shtml

I'm not sure this will work, just guessing. Anyway, it seems that if you let one pendulum go with the other at rest, the other pendulum will also oscillate, and the amplitude of its oscillations will also oscillate (ie. its amplitude will get bigger then smaller then bigger, let's call this this the "envelope"). You could time the periods of the pendula separately, and also time the period(s) of the envelope (seeing where it goes to zero is probably easier than seeing where it becomes largest). From all these periods you can get their frequencies. Apparently the frequency of the envelope is related to the difference in frequencies of the individual pendula.
 
atyy said:
http://www.theorphys.science.ru.nl/people/fasolino/sub_java/pendula/doublependul-en.shtml

I'm not sure this will work, just guessing. Anyway, it seems that if you let one pendulum go with the other at rest, the other pendulum will also oscillate, and the amplitude of its oscillations will also oscillate (ie. its amplitude will get bigger then smaller then bigger, let's call this this the "envelope"). You could time the periods of the pendula separately, and also time the period(s) of the envelope (seeing where it goes to zero is probably easier than seeing where it becomes largest). From all these periods you can get their frequencies. Apparently the frequency of the envelope is related to the difference in frequencies of the individual pendula.

Thanks for your feedback. Well I will try it out if I get the design part working, but wouldn't this mean I'd have to measure the oscillation for each time or rather each period of the oscillation and for both of the pendulums? That would mean around 4 measurements for each period? Also in regards to the spring between the two pendulums, is there a certain distance in which it has to be proportional to the length of the string or no? I'm open to other ideas as well as how to approach this thanks again.
 

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