How Do You Calculate Total Displacement in Physics?

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The discussion revolves around calculating total displacement in physics, specifically involving a jogger's movement with varying velocities over time intervals. The problem requires understanding the distinction between distance and displacement, as well as the application of average velocity in these calculations.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the formula for displacement, questioning whether to add or subtract distances based on direction. There are discussions about average velocity and its calculation, with some participants noting the difference between final velocity and average velocity.

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The conversation is active, with participants providing insights and questioning each other's reasoning. Some guidance is offered regarding the calculations, but there is no explicit consensus on the best approach to take. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored.

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There is a lack of clarity regarding the directions of the jogger's movements, which affects the interpretation of displacement. Additionally, the distinction between distance and displacement is under discussion, highlighting potential confusion in the terminology used.

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please help how do i go about solving this??

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A jogger runs in a straight line with an average
velocity of 4:7 m/s for 5.1 min, and then with
an average velocity of 4.1 m/s for 3 min.
What is her total displacement? Answer in
units of meters
 
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the_d said:
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A jogger runs in a straight line with an average
velocity of 4:7 m/s for 5.1 min, and then with
an average velocity of 4.1 m/s for 3 min.
What is her total displacement? Answer in
units of meters

use the formula:
[tex]d = V_{average}t[/tex]
 
and then I subtract the two to find the final displacement
 
No,you have to add the 2 distances.

Daniel.
 
the_d said:
and then I subtract the two to find the final displacement
Well, it all depends what the direction is. If he runs in the same direction both times, you have to add the 2 displacements to find the total displacement.
 
thanks dude
 
Even if the runs in the opposite direction on the second time interval,the TOTAL distance would still be gotten by adding the 2.

Daniel.
 
dextercioby said:
Even if the runs in the opposite direction on the second time interval,the TOTAL distance would still be gotten by adding the 2.

Daniel.
Aren't the words "distance travelled" and "displacement" different. I though displacement meant distance and direction from the original starting point.
 
for the same question, to get the avg. velocity during the time what should i do? i know it is not just to add the 2 velocities given and divide by 2
 
  • #10
the_d said:
for the same question, to get the avg. velocity during the time what should i do? i know it is not just to add the 2 velocities given and divide by 2
Average velocity is total distance divided by total time.
 
  • #11
christinono said:
Aren't the words "distance travelled" and "displacement" different. I though displacement meant distance and direction from the original starting point.

christinono said:
Average velocity is total distance divided by total time.

I think that u've given yourself the answer. :wink: Besides,since in the problem we're not given the directions (so that we would think it as a vector projection problem),it's natural to assume the simpler version,which is what the teacher would want,right...? :wink: :-p :biggrin:

Daniel.
 
  • #12
new question

A 500-kilogram sports car accelerates uni-
formly from rest, reaching a speed of 30 me-
ters per second in 6 seconds.
During the 6 seconds, the car has traveled
a distance of how many meters??

i got 180m is that correct?
i used : distance = avg. velocity * change in time
= (30m.s) * 6
= 180m
 
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dextercioby said:
I think that u've given yourself the answer. :wink: Besides,since in the problem we're not given the directions (so that we would think it as a vector projection problem),it's natural to assume the simpler version,which is what the teacher would want,right...? :wink: :-p :biggrin:

Daniel.
ha ha, very funny :wink: :biggrin: :-p
 
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the_d said:
A 500-kilogram sports car accelerates uni-
formly from rest, reaching a speed of 30 me-
ters per second in 6 seconds.
During the 6 seconds, the car has traveled
a distance of how many meters??

i got 180m is that correct?

Check your numbers again...

Daniel.
 
  • #15
the_d said:
A 500-kilogram sports car accelerates uni-
formly from rest, reaching a speed of 30 me-
ters per second in 6 seconds.
During the 6 seconds, the car has traveled
a distance of how many meters??

i got 180m is that correct?
i used : distance = avg. velocity * change in time
= (30m.s) * 6
= 180m
Careful... 30m/s is not the average velocity, but rather the final velocity. Remember, average velocity is total displacement divided by the total time, or in this case (if a is constant),
[tex]\frac{V_i + V_f}{2} = \frac{0+30m/s}{2}[/tex]
 
  • #16
christinono said:
Careful... 30m/s is not the average velocity, but rather the final velocity. Remember, average velocity is total displacement divided by the total time, or in this case (if a is constant),
[tex]\frac{V_i + V_f}{2} = \frac{0+30m/s}{2}[/tex]


where did u get the 2 from?
 
  • #17
the_d said:
where did u get the 2 from?
Isn't the average the sum of the 2 velocities divided by 2? In this case, the displacement would be: [tex]d = V_{ave}t[/tex]
 
  • #18
Kay,guys,let's leave side talks and refer to the initial problem ...

Daniel.
 
  • #19
your saying I take 30m/s and divide it by 2?? that is not right either.
 
  • #20
dextercioby said:
Kay,guys,let's leave side talks and refer to the initial problem ...

Daniel.
I's not "side talking". I'm referring to the "new question". Here, average velocity IS involved in finding the distance.

Anyways, got to go. I hope I didn't irritate you too much Daniel :biggrin:
 
  • #21
the_d said:
your saying I take 30m/s and divide it by 2?? that is not right either.
You take the 30 m/s, divide it by 2, and multiply it by the time to get the distance.
 
  • #22
Do you know Galileo Galilei's formula for uniformly accelerated motion...??

Daniel.
 
  • #23
Christinono,your method is equivalent to the one i suggested...Let's leave the OP to decide which is better for him to use.
Daniel.
 
  • #24
galelio

dextercioby said:
Do you know Galileo Galilei's formula for uniformly accelerated motion...??

Daniel.

yes, those are the four different eq'ns
 
  • #25
the_d said:
yes, those are the four different eq'ns

Nope,it's only one.

[tex]v_{fin}^{2}=v_{init}^{2}+2ad[/tex]

Daniel.
 
  • #26
dextercioby said:
Nope,it's only one.

[tex]v_{fin}^{2}=v_{init}^{2}+2ad[/tex]

Daniel.[/QUOT
i got it, thanks 4 the help dude
 

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