Trig Substitution: Learn How to Integrate Easily

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The discussion revolves around the concept of trigonometric substitution in integration, specifically focusing on how to apply it to certain integrals. Participants explore various methods and approaches to tackle problems involving trigonometric identities and integration techniques.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests clarification on the concept of trigonometric substitution and expresses confusion about specific integrals.
  • Another participant suggests using integration by parts for a related integral and provides a formula, although they express uncertainty about the final answer.
  • A different participant explains the rationale behind using trigonometric identities for substitution, detailing how to transform the integral involving a square root into a more manageable form.
  • There is a discussion regarding the absolute value of the tangent function in the context of the substitution, with one participant questioning whether it should be |atan(θ)| instead of atan(θ), noting potential implications for the final result.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the specifics of the substitution process or the treatment of absolute values in the context of the integrals. Multiple viewpoints and methods are presented, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the correctness of their approaches and the implications of certain mathematical steps, particularly regarding absolute values and the integration process.

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Can someone please show me the concept of trig substituion and easy way to use it...I don't quite understand this...
I'm ot sure how to dothis problem below..
1) indefinite integral dx/(x^3sqrt(x^2-a^2))
2) indefinite integral (1-4x^2)^(3/2)dx

How to use integration by part for
indefinite integral of x*inverse tan(x) dx.
 
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#1: It is the ∫ Sec-1x * x-2 dx.

Use parts formula: let u = Sec-1, du = x'/|x|sqrt(x^2 - a^2) where a = 1. dv = x-2 dx, v = -x^-1.

The answer? I'm not sure, but out of scratch i got -sec^-1x/x + 2sqrt(x^6 - x^4)/6x^5 - 4x^3 + C = -Cosx/x - sinx * x^3/3
 
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The point of "trigonometric substitution" is to use trig identities such as
sin2(θ)= 1- cos2(θ) so that
sin(θ)= √(1- cos2(θ))

sec2(θ)= 1+ tan2(θ) so that
sec(θ)= √(1+ tan2(θ))

tan2(θ)= sec2(θ)- 1 so that
tan(θ)= √(sec2(θ)- 1)

When you see something like ∫dx/(x3√(x2-a2)) you should immediately think "Hmmm, that √(x2- a2) reminds me of √(sec2(θ)- 1)- especially if I factor out a2 to get
a√((x/a)2-1). I'll bet making a substitution like
x/a= sec(θ) (0r x= a sec(θ)) will work!

Doing that, √(x2- a2) becomes √(a2sec2(θ)- a2)= a√(sec2-1)= a√(tan2)= a tan(θ)!

Also, x3 become a3sec3(θ) and dx= a d(sec(θ))= a sec(θ)tan(θ) dθ

The entire integral becomes ∫(a sec(θ)tan(θ)dθ/(a3sec3(θ)(a tan(θ)))
= (1/a3)∫(1/sec2(θ)
= (1/a3)∫cos2(θ)dθ
which can be done by using the trig identity:
cos2(θ)= (1/2)(1+ cos(2θ)).
 
i was thinking about that and actually shouldn't it be |atanθ|, not atanθ? the a vs |a| part doesn't matter because with the x3, you'd have a3|a|=a4 anyway but there'd still be a |tanθ|. perhaps when the integration is done and you go back to x, it won't matter if it was tanθ or |tanθ|...
 

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