Earworms & Other Thoughts Stuck in the Head

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The discussion revolves around the concept of "earworms," which are songs that get stuck in one's head, and whether there is a similar term for thoughts that persist in the mind. Participants explore the nature of these phenomena, their terminology, and the underlying cognitive processes involved.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants discuss the definition of "earworm" and its origin, noting that it refers specifically to songs stuck in one's head.
  • There is a query about whether there is a term for any thought that becomes persistent in the mind, with suggestions like "brainworm" being proposed.
  • One participant mentions the potential connection between the concept of earworms and the literature on Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD).
  • Several participants debate the appropriateness of the term "brainworm," with some arguing it does not follow the same naming pattern as "earworm." They discuss the neurological aspects of how these thoughts or songs are experienced.
  • There is a contention regarding the use of metaphorical language, with some participants arguing against the use of terms like "worm" and "infection," while others find them useful for describing subjective experiences.
  • Participants express differing views on the importance of precise terminology versus the value of poetic language in discussing these phenomena.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the terminology for thoughts stuck in one's head, with multiple competing views on the appropriateness of terms like "brainworm." The discussion remains unresolved regarding the relationship between earworms, brainworms, and the cognitive processes involved.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes varying interpretations of metaphorical language and its relevance to the topic, as well as differing opinions on the necessity of precise scientific terminology versus more abstract descriptions.

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According to wikipedia, earworm, a literal translation of the German Ohrwurm, is a term for a song stuck in one's head, particularly an annoying one. Use of the English translation was introduced by James Kellaris, an associate professor of marketing at the University of Cincinnati. His studies appeared to demonstrate that different people have varying susceptibilities to earworms, but that almost everybody has been afflicted at some time or another.

So, earworm is a word for a SONG stuck in one's head.

Is there a word for a thought, ANY thought, stuck in one's head?

Or, was ALL thought an "earworm"?

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We had a thread here recently about earworms, perhaps you'd be interested in it: Why do people get songs "stuck" in their heads?

I don't know of an analogous word used to refer to any kind of thought one gets stuck in one's head. Perhaps there has been a word coined for such a thing in the literature on OCD?
 
literature on OCD

What does "OCD" mean?

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Oh.

Thanks.

o:)
 
Using the same "pattern" for naming, wouldn't such a thought be a "brainworm"?

Furthermore, it sounds like what you describe is slightly different than a "meme".
 
Using the same "pattern" for naming, wouldn't such a thought be a "brainworm"?

Good one. :smile:

Lets go with that.

So it shall be: ALL thoughts were brainworms.

o:)
 
A good song to get stuck in your head is Maggotbrain by Funkadelic. :rolleyes:
 
Psi 5 said:
A good song to get stuck in your head is Maggotbrain by Funkadelic. :rolleyes:
Or Eruption, by Van Halen.
 
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Human Being said:
Using the same "pattern" for naming, wouldn't such a thought be a "brainworm"?
That's not really using the same pattern. The ears are what we use to sense aural information in the world, but they are not the mechanisms by which we actually, consciously experience sound. Earworms don't have anything to do with ears per se; they represent a repetitive kind of neural activity, probably in the temporal lobes.

Human Being said:
Furthermore, it sounds like what you describe is slightly different than a "meme".
Memes are not really the same sort of thing. Certainly an earworm could be considered a kind of meme, but the vast majority of things that could be considered memes do not have the property of being subjectively experienced in a repetitive and semi-uncontrollable manner.
 
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hypnagogue said:
That's not really using the same pattern. The ears are what we use to sense aural information in the world, but they are not the mechanisms by which we actually, consciously experience sound. Earworms don't have anything to do with ears per se; they represent a repetitive kind of neural activity, probably in the temporal lobes.
I think the important commonality between "earworm" and "brainworm" is the conduit through which one is infected by the "worm". Songs stuck in one's mind must first be heard with the ears, and concepts/ideas stuck in one's mind must first be "thought" with the brain. Earworms have quite a lot to do with ears, although certainly, they aren't "caused" by one's ears.
hypnagogue said:
Memes are not really the same sort of thing. Certainly an earworm could be considered a kind of meme, but the vast majority of things that could be considered memes do not have the property of being subjectively experienced in a repetitive and semi-uncontrollable manner.
Perhaps I was ambiguous in the statement you're responding to. What I was referring to when I said to Jimmie - "what you describe..." - was his statement, "Is there a word for a thought, ANY thought, stuck in one's head?" Sounds like you thought I was comparing a meme to an earworm, but I was comparing it to a brainworm.

Jimmie, glad you like the term.
 
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Human Being said:
I think the important commonality between "earworm" and "brainworm" is the conduit through which one is infected by the "worm".
I think it's important not to get caught up in thinking about any of this in erroneous humorous or poetic terms. There is no "worm" and no "infection". Nor are songs "stuck" in one's head. All these things are a manner of speaking only.

The pattern of thinking whereby someone decided to call this phenomenon an "earworm" may be of some interest in and of itself, but exploration of that is essentially an excercize in analyzing humor and would probably best be done in a different forum.
 
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zoobyshoe said:
I think it's important not to get caught up in thinking about any of this in erroneous humorous or poetic terms. There is no "worm" and no "infection". Nor are songs "stuck" in one's head. All these things are a manner of speaking only.
There is no "worm", eh?
There is no "infection", eh?
There is no "stuck", eh?

After hearing "Somewhere Over the Rainbow", many people "hear" the song again and again in their mind. These people rarely attempt to hear the song, it just "happens". If you don't like "poetic" terms, that's your deal. I myself find the loose metaphor an aid in describing what's happening. The neurological specifics seem to be "unimportant" with respect to the thread author's inquiry. The phenomena described by abstract terms like "brainworm" and "earworm" can be discussed without immersing oneself in accurate terminology.

Anyway, philosophy often inspires poetic language. But you had to know that already.
 
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Human Being said:
There is no "worm", eh?
There is no "infection", eh?
There is no "stuck", eh?
There are none of those, that's right.
After hearing "Somewhere Over the Rainbow", many people "hear" the song again and again in their mind. These people rarely attempt to hear the song, it just "happens".
None of which has anything to do with authentic worms, viruses, or friction.
If you don't like "poetic" terms, that's your deal.
I like them in poetry, when appropriately inserted in prose setting, and I understand their usefullness in describing the quality of a subjective experience. Despite the casualness of the OP, this forum is Mind And Brain Sciences.
 

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