Stationary Waves: Finding Minimum Intensity Distance

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The discussion revolves around stationary waves produced by two loudspeakers placed 4.0m apart, emitting sound waves of frequency 165 Hz in phase. The problem involves determining the shortest distance from one speaker where a minimum intensity is detected, relating to the formation of nodes in the stationary wave pattern.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between sine and cosine waves, questioning the choice of waveforms and their implications for determining the position of nodes. There is discussion about the phase relationship between the waves and how it affects the intensity detected by the microphone.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, raising questions about the nature of the waves and their phase differences. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between sine and cosine waves, but there remains uncertainty about the initial conditions and how to apply them to find the minimum intensity distance.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of an answer key that provides a specific solution, but participants express confusion about the derivation of the waveforms and the conditions under which minimum intensity occurs. The discussion reflects a need for clarification on the assumptions made regarding wave behavior and phase relationships.

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stationary waves, urgent!

helllloo.

i'm having a major exam tomorrow and i stumbled across this question just now..would appreciate all your help!

Two loudspeakers S1 and S2 are placed a distance 4.0m apart facing each other. The loudspeakers produce sound waves of frequency 165 Hz in phase with one another. A microphone, connected to a CRO, is moved along a straight line joining S1 and S2. The sound received by the microphone fluctuates regularly. Speed of sound is 330m/s.

(ii) Find the shortest distance from S1 where a minimum intensity is detected.

I understand that a stationary wave is formed between the 2 speakers and what this question requires is the distance of the first node from S1. Not too sure on how to get there though..

the answer key provided just drew 2 cosine waves from S1 to S2, one negative and the other positive. since the wavelength is 2.0m, the min. intensity is detected at 0.5m..

what i don't understand is how and why the cosine waves are derived, why not sine waves?

thanks!
 
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A cosine wave is a sine wave with a different phase angle, i.e. cosine wave is a sine wave shifted by pi/2, i.e. cos x = sin (x+pi/2).

Use the same wave form (sin or cos) for both speakers, i.e. the speakers are in phase.

The minimum occurs where the peak (max) of one wave cancels the trough (min) of the other.
 
hmm..

if there are 2 sine curves, the first crest and trough would be 0.5m from S1..
but for cosine curves, the point S1 itself would start with a crest and a trough, the next being 1.0m away

how do i determine if it starts with a sine or a cosine?
 
The issue is not whether the source is a sine or cosine wave, but rather the phase difference between the two sources, both temporally (timewise) and spatially.

The example provided,
the answer key provided just drew 2 cosine waves from S1 to S2, one negative and the other positive.
indicates that the sources are temporally out of phase by half a wavelength, but they are spatially separated by 2 wavelengths, the minimum intensity is at either source.

If one uses the same waves for both sources, which are also separated by an integral number (integer) of wavelengths, then they cancel at a distance of one half-wavelength from the either source.
 

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