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Why are textbooks in math and science so bad? 
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#55
May307, 10:45 AM

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Halliday Resnick& Walker Fundamentals of Physics Serway Moses & Moyer's Modern Physics Griffith's Quantum Mechanics Stewart's Calculus Blanchard Devaney & Hall's Differential Equations I have been pleased with all of these books. 


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#57
May307, 02:32 PM

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i think this topic resonate with other people. In any case, it make very little sense if the whole purpose of coming to a discussion forum is to get information. 


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#59
May307, 02:46 PM

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There is time constrict, and deadline that factors into the college experience. I would love to read the great american novel, but i don t have time. Besides, even those people doing mathematical research hate to go to the book( dpmms.cam.ac.uk/~twk/Lecture.pdf) i think one of the reason is that the book suck also at the more advance level. 


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May307, 04:42 PM

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Anyways do you remember any of the professors you talked to. I know the math and physics departments at UCLA very well (I know the math department alot better though). Do you go to UCLA yourself? The other is from an assistant professor (nontenure track), he has complained several times about the syllabus he HAS to follow and having to use the specific book we are using. He's still good about following the syllabus and following the book as you describe that your professors have followed it. I took a topology class last spring from an assistant professor (not sure if tenure track or not) she had to follow the book and did pretty much every sections one after the other again like you have described that all your classes have been like. I took differential geometry two winter quarters ago and the professor (full professor) gave us his own notes. He is a differential geometer so he knows the subject very well. He did not even assign a book. He did however recommend a few books that he liked. Actually even the very good associate professors that I have had have followed the book (actually here I have only taken one undergrad class with an associate professor). But it was not his subject of expertise and I'm not sure if he was forced to follow any certain syllabus. Some full professors choose to follow the normal syllabus for whatever reasons I won't say anything in specific because I'm not too sure. But I have acknowledged many times (not here) that I have been very fortunate to have taken the classes that I have taken with the professors that I have taken them. Maybe you haven't been as lucky. About having time: What I have always thought is that if you really want to do it you will make time. Maybe some people think that putting in the time required to learn is "uncool" (as per a previous comment by you), but that's not a textbook author's problem. 


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May307, 05:37 PM

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i don t remember all the names. Do you know edward lee, and ruhal fernadaze( spell error)? Books at powell, or the books at the math and science library? do you know the call number? May i ask how much you study in a day? Well, maybe we can get together 


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#64
May307, 10:57 PM

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Anyways if you tell me what classes you are taking I can recommend a few books. (Just say what number course it is). If you PM your schedule we can figure out if I could help you out a bit. 


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May407, 12:34 AM

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I I don t know why i would do that, but in anycase, where do you usually study? I live on campus( at hedrick summit). Do you usually study in the math and engineering library? Are you asian, indian, or white? 


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May407, 01:46 AM

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Anyways my point was that he once told me that he did not like using Halliday and Resnick (spelling?) because he liked to take problem out of there and rather use the regular book. The point is sometimes the good books are harder Anyways when I took Math 131AH and BH the book assigned was Undergraduate Analysis by Serge Lang. It was a pretty good book. You probably would not describe it as dry. I don't know much about the book that you guys are using though. 


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#68
May407, 02:09 AM

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I have to think about it. The guy with the long hair? Does he life alone, because he seems really sad. I guess we are back to step. You say there are many good books. I say there is not enough time. you say "you can make time if you want to learn". 


#69
May407, 02:44 AM

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kant, if you spent as much time reading a book as you've done *****ing on this thread you may start to learn something! 


#70
May407, 03:12 AM

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You are not vey nice, and frankly my study habits is none of your ****ing concern. Maybe you should take your own advice, and stop hopping around this place. You made more post than me. 


#71
May407, 10:22 AM

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I spent since winter 06 to the end of summer 06 (so around 9 months) reading the first chapter of several books on manifold theory. It took all of the winter quarter to get through the first few pages and I still did not get it to where I was satisfied. I would pick up one book and not be able to get thorugh the first few pages satisfactorily and pick up another one and another one. I spent much more that 6 measly hours trying to understand it. When I took Manifold Theory (225A) last fall (fall 06), some of the undergrad students used to think it was really hard and wondered why I did not find it as hard. The answer is what I just told you. I struggled with it for a really long time, when I went to lecture everything he said I had seen and it made alot more sense to me than to some of the other undergrads who also went to lecture but had not seen the material before. That's the list of libraries at UCLA. The one you are thinking of is the Science and Engineering Library(SEL). The one in boelter is the Engineering and Mathematical Sciences Collection part of the Science and Engineering Library. I guess you are not too incorrect in calling it that although that is not the proper name. What I am really curious about is knowing why you named the races that you did in that order. Oh and just to add to the recommendation of books for 131A, one of my favorite analysis books (probably my favorite) is Basic Analysis by Anthony W. Knapp. I always go to that book first if I need to recall anything from analysis. 


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