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Heat Surge Amish-made fireplace

by Ivan Seeking
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Ivan Seeking
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Dec27-08, 03:05 AM
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We were already using all electric heat in this house. With the Roll-n-Glow Fireplace, I believe we still saved money last winter. In a very short time the room heats to the comfort wanted, quietly and cheaper! It's paid for itself already!

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Heat Surge Miracle Heaters Given Away Free with Order of Handmade Amish Fireplace Mantle
http://www.heatsurgetv.com/

Essentially anywhere there's an outlet you can place a Roll-n-Glow electric fireplace. Perfect for any house, apartment, condo, dorm, mobile home, cottage, office, hotel, or garage

http://www.heatsurge.com/

The problem? These sell for up to $587.00 but are just a 1500 watt electric heater plus the fancy "Amish-made" cabinet.

A 1500 watt electric heater like this sells at Walmart for less than $14.00


http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=7768641

Note that the Heat Surge cited maximum of 5110 BTUs, is just 1498 watts.
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Proton Soup
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the first one looks warmer. and it's pretty.

the targeted consumer is probably shut-ins/elderly. :|
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Dec29-08, 06:39 AM
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No one knows more about electric devices than the Amish.

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Heat Surge Amish-made fireplace

Heat Surge is an established company with millions of satisfied customers whose focus is to exceed customer expectations.

To accomplish this, along with other successful methods, we’ve set up a Web site to share the facts about our company at http://heatsurge.wordpress.com to address any questions or concerns you may have.

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True or false: You can get the same amount of heat from a $15 electric heater from Walmart?
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True or false: You can get the same amount of heat from a $15 electric heater from Walmart?
Yes, but this one does also raise barns for you
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Looks like you hooked a troll Ivan.

Wooow. 5000 BTU's? That's a lot of BTUs.......isn't it? That a lot of thousands of BTU thingies.

Taking advantage of the general public's stupidity is obviously a viable business practice still. This goes right up there with marketing 2 HP shop vacs for 110V use.

If I were dead set on giving there web site a hit, I'd love to see what the cabinets are made out of. Do the Amish raise particle board barns now a days?
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Dec29-08, 10:29 AM
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The video on the website is just flat out ridiculous.
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Quote Quote by Proton Soup View Post
the first one looks warmer. and it's pretty.

the targeted consumer is probably shut-ins/elderly. :|
I was just about to say I liked it.
I feel old.

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No one knows more about electric devices than the Amish.
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Dec29-08, 10:45 AM
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I won't even bother checking the web-site. I've seen their print ads and they are just a bunch of scammers, fleecing the ignorant. In our area, electricity is by far the most expensive way to heat a house and the climate is such that 5000 BTU would be like throwing a hot-dog to a hungry lion.

Edit: How do you get a "heat surge" out of a cheap 5000 btu resistive heater? The name itself is ridiculous.
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I had one like this for the bathroom at my old house. It was from Home Depot.

It was basically decorative, but it's also a space heater.
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I could get more heat by dragging out my tube amp and playing guitar for a while. All those tubes throw a bit of heat. I used to own a Peavey Classic 30 that got really hot - like the old Vox amps, it was a single-ended design that was dissipating power at max even when it was idling. At least I would be getting the side-benefit of guitar practice.
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Cheezy marketing for sure, but spot heating most certainly does save energy.

With the price, though, buying it for looks is the better bet.
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Quote Quote by russ_watters View Post
Cheezy marketing for sure, but spot heating most certainly does save energy.
It might be fair to sell it as a decorative item, but zone heating can be accomplished using any 1500 watt [electric] heater. If the intent is to save money, the last thing one needs is a fancy $200-$500+ cabinet enclosing an otherwise cheap heater.
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Quote Quote by FredGarvin View Post
This goes right up there with marketing 2 HP shop vacs for 110V use.
These rating are often obtained by increasing the voltage to the motor until the point that it self-destructs. The power rating is obtained just before it bursts into flames, or smokes. That is the "peak HP".
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Quote Quote by FredGarvin View Post
This goes right up there with marketing 2 HP shop vacs for 110V use.
I just bought a 300W UPS that is also labeled 650VA
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I just bought a 300W UPS that is also labeled 650VA
Wow! Isn't the 2-gauge power cable a bit stiff?
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I was mainly wondering what shape the sine wave output would have to be for that to add up.


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