quantum collapse

Ilja

Another type of nonsense which is obviously false or makes obviously meaningless assumptions? We have a simple counterexample known as pilot wave theory.

ZapperZ

Then I look forward to you publishing your rebuttals to S. Groeblacher et al., Nature v.446, p.871 (2007), and also your counter to Leggett's non-local realistic inequality.

Zz.

Ilja

Reading what Groeblacher writes about Bohm (some short comment after eq. (4)), there is no reason to publish any rebuttals. These results rebut some class of nonlocal realistic theories,
which fulfill some inequality found by Legett, which differ from SQM, but not dBB theory, which agrees with SQM.

ZapperZ

Then which part exactly did you find to be ".... of nonsense which is obviously false or makes obviously meaningless assumptions..." when I made a reference to it, or did you not remember making such a statement?

Zz.

Ilja

Initially I have responded to your claim:

without reading the paper, and therefore I have not made a claim about this paper, but formulated it as a question. This has been marked with the "?" sign.

Now it is clear that it is your claim about the paper which is wrong. One clearly can save realism, in a very simple, well-known, and old way - by using pilot wave theory - and nothing in this paper questions this fact.