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Old Nov28-09, 03:59 PM                  #1
BobbyBear

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similar to an eigenvalue problem . . . help!

Consider the following linear homogeneous ordinary differential equation system:
(NB this system describes the movement of the natural response of a two degree of freedom structural system made up of two lumped masses connected by elastic rigidities) :

LaTeX Code: <BR>      \\left( \\begin{array}{cc}<BR>      m_1 & 0  \\\\<BR>      0  & m_2 \\\\<BR>      \\end{array} \\right) <BR><BR>      \\left( \\begin{array}{cc}<BR>      \\ddot{u}_1  \\\\<BR>      \\ddot{u}_2  \\\\<BR>      \\end{array} \\right) <BR>+<BR>      \\left( \\begin{array}{cc}<BR>      (k_1 + k_2) & -k_2  \\\\<BR>      -k_2  & k_2 \\\\<BR>      \\end{array} \\right) <BR><BR>      \\left( \\begin{array}{cc}<BR>      u_1  \\\\<BR>      u_2  \\\\<BR>      \\end{array} \\right) <BR><BR>=<BR>      \\left( \\begin{array}{cc}<BR>      0  \\\\<BR>      0  \\\\<BR>      \\end{array} \\right) <BR><BR><BR>

which I shall compactly write as:

LaTeX Code: <BR>[m] \\vec{\\ddot{u}} + [k] \\vec{u}} = \\vec{0}<BR>

Now, to solve, we assume a solution of the form:

LaTeX Code: <BR>\\vec{u}(t)=q_n(t) \\vec{\\phi _n} <BR>

where

LaTeX Code: <BR>q_n(t) = A_n cos (\\omega _n t) + B_n sin (\\omega _n t)<BR>

and

LaTeX Code: <BR> \\vec{\\phi _n} <BR>

is a constant vector.

Then
LaTeX Code: <BR>\\vec{\\ddot{u}}(t)=-\\omega _n^2 q_n(t) \\vec{\\phi _n}<BR>

Substituting into the differential system,

LaTeX Code: <BR>\\left[-\\omega _n^2  [m] \\vec{\\phi _n} + [k] \\vec{\\phi _n} \\right] q_n(t) = \\vec{0}<BR>

from which

LaTeX Code: <BR>-\\omega _n^2  [m] \\vec{\\phi _n} + [k] \\vec{\\phi _n} = \\vec{0}<BR>

LaTeX Code: <BR>(-\\omega _n^2  [m] + [k]) \\vec{\\phi _n} = \\vec{0}<BR>

and for there to be a non trivial solution, we need:

LaTeX Code: <BR>det(-\\omega _n^2  [m] + [k]) = 0<BR>

from which we get two values of

LaTeX Code: <BR>\\omega _n^2<BR>

Now, my book (Dynamics of Structures by Chopra) says that the LaTeX Code:  \\omega _n^2  are real and positive because [k] and [m] are real symmetric and positive definite.
I don't see how this deduction is made!! I mean, I know that if a matrix [A] is a real symmetric matrix that is positive definite, then all its eigenvalues are real and positive (the proof is available in any standard text of linear algebra).
But I just don't see how to prove the other statement! the LaTeX Code:  \\omega _n^2  are not the eigenvalues of any matrix, are they? (even though it's a similar problem to an eigenvalue problem). Can someone help me see how that deduction is made?
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Old Nov29-09, 10:27 PM                  #2
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Re: similar to an eigenvalue problem . . . help!

The matrix LaTeX Code: [m] is invertible. Factor it out of

LaTeX Code: -\\omega _n^2  [m] \\vec{\\phi _n} + [k] \\vec{\\phi _n} = \\vec{0}

to get

LaTeX Code: -\\omega _n^2  \\vec{\\phi _n} + [m]^{-1}[k] \\vec{\\phi _n} = \\vec{0}

or

LaTeX Code: [m]^{-1}[k] \\vec{\\phi _n} = \\omega _n^2  \\vec{\\phi _n},

which means the LaTeX Code: \\omega_n^2 are eigenvalues of the matrix [m]^{-1}[k].
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Old Nov30-09, 06:55 AM                  #3
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Re: similar to an eigenvalue problem . . . help!

Thank you Mute, I never thought of doing that!

But I'm still not quite able to reach the desired conclusion...

Okay so the LaTeX Code: <BR>      \\omega_n^2<BR>       are eigenvalues of the matrix LaTeX Code: <BR>      [m]^{-1}[k]<BR>

And I've read that every positive definite matrix is invertible, and its inverse is also positive definite, so that means that if [m] is positive definite, then so is LaTeX Code: <BR>      [m]^{-1}<BR>

So we have that both LaTeX Code: <BR>      [m]^{-1}<BR>       and LaTeX Code: <BR>      [k]<BR>       are positive definite, but in general that does not mean that LaTeX Code: <BR>     [m]^{-1}  [k]<BR>       is positive definite, does it?
I've read that if two matrices [M] and [N] are positive definite, then their product is positive definite if LaTeX Code: <BR>     [M] [N] = [N] [M]<BR>       , but this is not the case with LaTeX Code: <BR>     [m]^{-1}<BR>       and [k], their product is not commutative in general. So how can we see that LaTeX Code: <BR>     [m]^{-1}  [k]<BR>       is positive definite?

Thanks for your help!
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Old Nov30-09, 07:12 AM                  #4
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Re: similar to an eigenvalue problem . . . help!

Oh but wait! I just realised that even though [m] and [k] are real symmetric, LaTeX Code:  [m]^{-1}[k]  is not even symmetric, so it wouldn't be of any use to prove that LaTeX Code:  [m]^{-1}[k]  is positive definite, would it, because we don't know that the eigenvalues are real...

LaTeX Code:  [m]^{-1}[k] =<BR><BR>            \\left( \\begin{array}{cc}<BR>            1/m_1 & 0  \\\\<BR>            0  & 1/m_2 \\\\<BR>            \\end{array} \\right) <BR><BR>            \\left( \\begin{array}{cc}<BR>            (k_1 + k_2) & -k_2  \\\\<BR>            -k_2  & k_2 \\\\<BR>            \\end{array} \\right) <BR><BR>      =<BR>            \\left( \\begin{array}{cc}<BR>            (k_1 + k_2)/m_1 & -k_2/m_1  \\\\<BR>            -k_2/m_2  & k_2/m_2 \\\\<BR>            \\end{array} \\right) <BR><BR><BR>            <BR>

So how do we see that the eigenvalues of LaTeX Code:  [m]^{-1}[k]  are real and positive?
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