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| Oct12-10, 05:13 PM | #1 |
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Permutations, cycles
1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
Let t be an element of S be the cycle (1,2....k) of length k with k<=n. a) prove that if a is an element of S then ata^-1=(a(1),a(2),...,a(k)). Thus ata^-1 is a cycle of length k. b)let b be any cycle of length k. Prove there exists a permutation a an element of S such that ata^-1=b. 2. Relevant equations 3. The attempt at a solution We assume t is an element of S and a is an element S. By definition of elements of S if t is in S, we have a determined by t(1), t(2),...,t(n) Furthermore if a is in S, we have a(1), a(2)....a(n). That's as far as I get. |
| Oct12-10, 05:21 PM | #2 |
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hi kathrynag!
![]() just read out that equation in English …
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| Oct12-10, 05:33 PM | #3 |
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Does it go to 2?
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| Oct12-10, 05:49 PM | #4 |
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Permutations, cycles
Ok if a is defined by 1--->a(1), 2-----a(2),k--->a(k), then a^-1 is defined as a(1)-->1,a(2)--->2, a(k)--->k
Then ata^-1 for a(2) is a(t(2))=a(2) |
| Oct12-10, 05:49 PM | #5 |
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a-1 sends it to 2 … so what does ata-1 send it to? |
| Oct12-10, 05:51 PM | #6 |
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a(t(2))
t(2)=2 a(2) |
| Oct12-10, 05:58 PM | #7 |
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(1,2....k) means that it sends 1 to 2, 2 to 3, … and k to 1. ![]() so t(2) = … ? |
| Oct12-10, 05:59 PM | #8 |
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3
so we are left with a(3)=4 |
| Oct12-10, 06:09 PM | #9 |
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you're not told anything about a, are you? a(3) is just a(3) ! :bigginr: (and I'm off to bed … see you tomorrow!)
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| Oct12-10, 06:21 PM | #10 |
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I thought I could do this:
By definition of elements of S if t is in S, we have a determined by t(1), t(2),...,t(n) Furthermore if a is in S, we have a(1), a(2)....a(n). |
| Oct12-10, 07:44 PM | #11 |
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So I have ata^-1=at(n)
because a^-1 sends a(1)--->1,a(2)--->2,.....a(n)--->n By defininition of t, we have a(1), a(2), a(3)...a(k). We go to k because our definition of t says k<=n. For b, Let b be any cycle of length k. We have (1,2.....k). I'm not sure how to show the rest. |
| Oct13-10, 03:28 AM | #12 |
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hi kathrynag!
![]() (just got up …)anyway, before we go any further, i need to know: what exactly is S?
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