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Jan8-11, 05:57 PM   #69
 

Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, 6 YTBN Shot, Killed In Tuscon AZ


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True!



It seems that she was incredibly lucky. According to Sanjay Gupta on CNN, who is himself a neurosurgeon, that the attending neurosugeon expressed optimism that she will recover, is highly significant. One would not normally expect this given the nature of the injury.

It was a Glock 9mm, which is not something you would expect to survive at point blank.
I'm stunned... and the surgeon stated clearly that the bullet passed through the brain. At this point, I'm sure her doctors are stunned too.


DA: I know what you mean about the professional hitmen; they're psychopaths, and these people are psychopaths as well. Both are predators of their own kind, both for reasons a sane person would reject, and both are just plain scary. Just remember, we have a sensational media, and while this is terrible, until I see anything but a continued drop in national murder rates, I'm accepting that this is unusual and the rest is mostly media distortion.
Jan8-11, 05:59 PM   #70
 
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Thanks.
Careful... someone might call you a moron...
Jan8-11, 06:00 PM   #71
 
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I'm stunned... and the surgeon stated clearly that the bullet passed through the brain. At this point, I'm sure her doctors are stunned too.


DA: I know what you mean about the professional hitmen; they're psychopaths, and these people are psychopaths as well. Both are predators of their own kind, both for reasons a sane person would reject, and both are just plain scary. Just remember, we have a sensational media, and while this is terrible, until I see anything but a continued drop in national murder rates, I'm accepting that this is unusual and the rest is mostly media distortion.
Professional hitmen are psychopaths?
Jan8-11, 06:02 PM   #72
 
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My wife and I visited Tucson several times during my mother's last years there (2005-08), so we were naturally curious about exactly where this happened. The national TV news reports apparently don't consider this information important for a national audience, so I had to rummage around Tucson TV web sites for a while. I finally found it: the Safeway on Oracle Road at Ina, about a mile north of the motel where we always stayed, and where we usually shopped for groceries.
Jan8-11, 06:03 PM   #73
 
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Professional hitmen are psychopaths?
Phhhh... OK... let me clarify:

The profile of a the kind of "professional murder for hire" architect that people refer to as a "hitman", is that of a high functioning sociopath/psychopath (Now called Anti-Social Personality Disorder). So... yes.

In this modern age, we have a kind of narco-child soldier who the media calls hitmen, but are really just like child soldiers everywhere... they're traumatized certainly, but their acts often don't reflect their own choices.
Jan8-11, 06:04 PM   #74
 
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My wife and I visited Tucson several times during my mother's last years there (2005-08), so we were naturally curious about exactly where this happened. The national TV news reports apparently don't consider this information important for a national audience, so I had to rummage around Tucson TV web sites for a while. I finally found it: the Safeway on Oracle Road at Ina, about a mile north of the motel where we always stayed, and where we usually shopped for groceries.
Oh... you have GOT to put that here: http://www.physicsforums.com/showthr...t=16317&page=9
Jan8-11, 06:09 PM   #75
 
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I've now seen Mathamateur's report earlier in this thread. I hope he isn't as shook up about this as I would have been if I had been there.
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Oh... you have GOT to put that here: http://www.physicsforums.com/showthr...t=16317&page=9
Wow, I randomly picked that to read for the first time an hour ago and then you go and post it here........
Jan8-11, 06:14 PM   #77
 
At this point, all I can say is that clearly the actions of paramedics, and everyone who rendered first aid and primary care saved a lot of lives, and at least gave this woman a chance. That's to be commended, although I haven't heard anything about it on the news... shocker.


Jared: OMG... it's Ivan... he's Sylar!!!!!
Jan8-11, 06:17 PM   #78
 
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President Barack Obama's live statement:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog
Jan8-11, 06:17 PM   #79
 
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I meant where to look on Palin's site. Apparently she did take it down.
What!? "Chinese censorship"!?!? www.sarahpac.com works just fine from Sweden????

SP is giving her "sincere condolences are offered to the family of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and the other victims of today's tragic shooting in Arizona".

Which to me means her map (gone) was not smartest move in the world...

Try Google's cache and let me know if this doesn’t work.


EDIT: Misunderstanding, "she did take it down" [the site], sorry...
Jan8-11, 06:24 PM   #80
 
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I think Palin's ad was neither offensive or dumb, it was an evidently playful manner of identifying key political antagonists.

That they have pulled that ad down now is the only decent thing they could do.

Not because the ad was indecent in itself, but that the massacre has irredeemably poisoned it, through no fault of Palin's or her associates.

If they HAD kept the ad going, though, they would themselves have become grossly offensive.

If somebody throws garbage on your clothes, you should not wear those soiled pieces of cloth, but find something else to wear.
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From everything I'm hearing about the guy and the people who were shot, I wonder if the judge was the target.
http://www.youthlaw.org/litigation/n...ntal_health/1/

A good question --- just too much time in the courtroom with people who lack the mental stability to be loose on the streets? Bad scene.
Jan8-11, 06:24 PM   #82
 
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What!? "Chinese censorship"!?!?
We're not communicating well. I meant she took down the map, not the site.
Jan8-11, 06:35 PM   #83
 
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I think Palin's ad was neither offensive or dumb,
Riflescopes and "17 more to go" is a smart ad...????
Jan8-11, 06:36 PM   #84
 
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We're not communicating well. I meant she took down the map, not the site.
Yeah I know... check the EDIT part... ;)
Jan8-11, 06:38 PM   #85

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Riflescopes and "17 more to go" is a smart ad...????
Not being dumb doesn't imply smart. It was just an ad. No one makes a big deal out of anything until something happens, which means it is just knee-jerk reactionary complaints. There have been ads like this for decades and no one complained because no sane person is going to take an ad and use it as a call to arms to go kill someone in real life. A crazy person doesn't need an ad, however.
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