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How is it possible to live past the event horizon?

 
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Jul17-12, 03:44 PM   #18
 

How is it possible to live past the event horizon?


Quote by phinds View Post
There's a nifty "video" (action graphic) somewhere on the internet that shows what you see as you fall into a supermassive BH and pass the EH, and it does show a change in what you see. Sorry I don't have a link. Sounds like you wouldn't believe it anyway.
Why? I don't have any preconceptions, and my knowledge of the matter is very limited. I just posed a question, sorry if I sounded arrogant. And I don't want to "believe" anything, I want to understand. I think I saw that video some time ago. I'll look for it.
Jul17-12, 08:42 PM   #19
 
Just to confuse the issue about the event horizon because I can't find a definitive answer about black holes.

Are black holes an actual singularity, or are black holes some kind of thickening "soup"?

My current visualization is a singularity that forms when the blackout is first created surrounded by something like a Dyson sphere(???) where time & in falling matter basically freezes at the event horizon.
Jul18-12, 03:31 AM   #20
 
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Just to confuse the issue about the event horizon because I can't find a definitive answer about black holes.

Are black holes an actual singularity, or are black holes some kind of thickening "soup"?

My current visualization is a singularity that forms when the blackout is first created surrounded by something like a Dyson sphere(???) where time & in falling matter basically freezes at the event horizon.
Black holes are defined as a region of spacetime.
This region contains a singularity according to GR, which is often interpreted as the symptom that the description is not completely correct. There's no "soup" in the way GR describes them: infalling matter is obliged to hit the singularity. But who knows what a quantum description of a black hole will look like. Let's wait for the experts' answers about this.
What has the Dyson sphere to do with it?
Time doesn't "freeze". Proper time always flows at its own rate, so to say. The "freezing" you mention depends on your choice of coordinates, it only happens in certain (pathological) coordinate frames. Have a look at Painlevé coordinates, which avoid this problem, and then at Kruskal-Szekeres diagrams and Penrose diagrams which are a different way to map spacetime and show clearly why there's no room for a standing "thick soup".
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