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Aug7-12, 06:50 AM   #18
 

Impulse Momentum Method for Rotational


M1=Iω
=0

M2=Iω
=(2.5)(V/0.15)
=16.67V

I1-2= Torque x Time
=(TaX0.075-75X0.15)5
=17.325-1.5V

M1+I1-2=M2
17.325-1.5v=16.67v
17.325=18.17v
v=0.95

v=rω
0.95=0.15ω
ω=6.3 wrong again
 
Aug7-12, 07:21 AM   #19
 
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M2=Iω
=(2.5)(V/0.15)
=16.67V
Same problem with radius vs diameter. (Sorry I didn't spot it before.)
 
Aug7-12, 07:29 AM   #20
 
how come i need to take the radius of the axle and not the wheel?
 
Aug7-12, 07:34 AM   #21
 
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how come i need to take the radius of the axle and not the wheel?
You are relating ω to the speed V, which is the tangential speed of the axle edge, not the wheel edge.
 
Aug7-12, 08:04 AM   #22
 
Can I say the "v" that I am finding is actually the velocity of the axle. After getting the velocity of the axle, I divide by 0.075 (axle radius) is because in a compound pulley, Angular velocity are the same. I am just using the axle velocity to get ω.
 
Aug7-12, 08:17 AM   #23
 
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Can I say the "v" that I am finding is actually the velocity of the axle. After getting the velocity of the axle, I divide by 0.075 (axle radius) is because in a compound pulley, Angular velocity are the same. I am just using the axle velocity to get ω.
Yes. V is the velocity of the falling mass, and since its cord is wrapped around the axle, V is also the tangential velocity of the axle.

The axle and wheel are attached, so they have a common ω.
 
Aug7-12, 08:32 AM   #24
 
Ok..I'm sorry can you help me take a look at this question part C

M1=Iω
=(3.5)(12.5)
=43.75

M2
=Iω
=3.5ω

I1-2=Torque X Time
=[(-TA)(0.2)+(TB)(0.5)]5
=-32ω+3783.5

M1+I1-2=M2
43.75-32ω+3783.5=3.5ω
3827.25=35.5ω
ω=107.80 - Wrong Answer
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Aug7-12, 08:57 AM   #25
 
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M1=Iω
=(3.5)(12.5)
=43.75

M2
=Iω
=3.5ω

I1-2=Torque X Time
=[(-TA)(0.2)+(TB)(0.5)]5
=-32ω+3783.5
Double check that last calculation.
 
Aug7-12, 09:13 AM   #26
 
=[(-TA)(0.2)+(TB)(0.5)]5

=[(-2ω+465.5)0.2+(1327.2-12ω)0.5]5

=(-0.4ω+93.1+663.6-6ω)5

=(-6.4ω+756.7)5

=-32ω+3783.5

I'm abit blind hehe can you tell me where is wrong?
 
Aug7-12, 09:19 AM   #27
 
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=[(-TA)(0.2)+(TB)(0.5)]5

=[(-2ω+465.5)0.2+(1327.2-12ω)0.5]5
Looks to me like you left out a minus sign.
 
Aug7-12, 09:31 AM   #28
 
fail -.- what a mess...hehe anyway thanks for your time and help (voko too), thanks :)
 
Aug7-12, 12:40 PM   #29
 
I can't believe I mistook the diameters for the radii, but I did. Not just once, but multiple times when I cross-checked my results via at least three different methods. Oh well. Thanks Doc Al for pointing that out.
 
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