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| Jan17-13, 03:13 PM | #1 |
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Complex Analysis - Fibonacci Identity
Hey guys~
I was looking for a way to derive a formula for fn (the nth term in the fibonacci sequence). While looking for this, I came across a potential solution using the residue theorem. Using the generating function Ʃk≥0 fnzn, find the identity for fn. The problem looks like the right thumbnail. Also, it can be found here on page 106: http://www.math.binghamton.edu/sabal.../Chapter10.pdf I personally do not understand how using the suggested hint will bring you to a formula for fn. I know that one must Recall Cauchy's integral formula to relate the integral to the value of fn. Also, will the resulting identity simply be Binet's formula? Thanks all, Physics-Pure |
| Jan19-13, 03:15 PM | #2 |
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If anyone knows where to find the solution set, that would also be appreciated. It isn't homework related, simply for fun.
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| Jan19-13, 09:06 PM | #3 |
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If you would like to see my work thus far on this problem set look here: http://math.stackexchange.com/q/282436/58540
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| Jan19-13, 11:53 PM | #4 |
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Complex Analysis - Fibonacci Identity
Yes that is Binet's formula.
[tex]A=(z^{n+1}(1-z-z^2))^{-1} \\ f_n=^\mathrm{Res}_{z=0}A=\left(^\mathrm{Res}_{z=-\phi}A+^\mathrm{Res}_{z=0}A+^\mathrm{Res}_{z=1-\phi}A \right)-^\mathrm{Res}_{z=-\phi}A-^\mathrm{Res}_{z=1-\phi}A=\frac{1}{2\pi i}\oint \! A \mathrm \,{dz}-^\mathrm{Res}_{z=-\phi}A-^\mathrm{Res}_{z=1-\phi}A=-^\mathrm{Res}_{z=-\phi}A-^\mathrm{Res}_{z=1-\phi}A [/tex] The gain here is the residue at zero is complicated, while the two others lead easily to Binet's formula. |
| Jan19-13, 11:57 PM | #5 |
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First off, where does the z^n+1 come from?
But I believe I understand the rest now. |
| Jan20-13, 12:40 AM | #6 |
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z^(n-1) is part of the usual formula to extract coefficients from a power series.
[tex]1=^\mathrm{Res}_{z=0}z^{-1}\\ a_n=^\mathrm{Res}_{z=0} \frac{1}{z^{n+1}}\sum_{n=-\infty}^\infty a_n z^n[/tex] |
| Jan20-13, 12:46 AM | #7 |
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Ahh, I understand. Now why did you put -phi and 1-phi instead of phi and conjuagte phi?
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| Jan20-13, 01:01 AM | #8 |
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Why would dividing by z^(n+1) extract the a_nth term?
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| Jan20-13, 01:02 AM | #9 |
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-phi and 1-phi are the roots of 1-z-z^2
phi and conjuagte phi are the roots of 1-z+z^2 It works out the same in the end. |
| Jan20-13, 01:03 AM | #10 |
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Dividing by z^(n+1) makes the z^n term into z^-1, the residue is the coefficient of z^-1.
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| Jan20-13, 01:14 AM | #11 |
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Alright. Can you also tell me why it's even useful to show that it has a positive radius of convergence? And how to do so?
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| Jan20-13, 01:17 AM | #12 |
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Why is it even relevant to the question at hand?
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| Jan20-13, 01:29 AM | #13 |
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The positive radius of convergence can be found many ways including by the ratio test if you can find the limiting ratio. A positive radius of convergence tells us F is nonsingular at z=0 which we use in extracting the coefficients. If F had a pole we would need to ajust the coefficients, if F had an essential singularity it might be much harder.
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| Jan20-13, 01:54 AM | #14 |
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"phi and conjuagte phi are the roots of 1-z+z^2
It works out the same in the end." Why does it work out the same in the end? |
| Jan20-13, 02:07 AM | #15 |
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Another approach is that of describing the regression as a matrix, and then diagonalizing the matrix ( not too hard to show it is diagonalizable). That gives you a closed form for the n-th term.
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| Jan20-13, 02:12 AM | #16 |
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[tex]
f_n=^\mathrm{Res}_{z=0}(z^{n+1}(1-z-z^2))^{-1}=^\mathrm{Res}_{z=0}((-z)^{n+1}(-1-z+z^2))^{-1}[/tex] so it does not make much difference. It is just a change of variable between z and -z. |
| Jan20-13, 12:12 PM | #17 |
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Would you mind showing the work required for (1)? Using the ratio test
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