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Why operation * not defined in Q

 
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Jan24-13, 10:44 AM   #1
 

Why operation * not defined in Q


1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

Show that l/m * k/n = (l+k)/(m2+n2) can not be defined as an operation in Q when l,k € Z and m, n € Z\{0}

I do not know what is the issue here? Should I know something about Q that this not fulfilled by the operation *?
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1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

Show that l/m * k/n = (l+k)/(m2+n2) can not be defined as an operation in Q when l,k € Z and m, n € Z\{0}

I do not know what is the issue here? Should I know something about Q that this not fulfilled by the operation *?
Hint: What happens if you negate [itex]l[/itex] and [itex]m[/itex]?
Jan24-13, 12:04 PM   #3
 
Ok.. So the same operation can produce two different results??

So that l/m * k/n = (l+k)/(m2+n2) ≠ (-l+k)/((-m)2+n2) = -l/-m * k/n = l/m * k/n
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Why operation * not defined in Q


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Ok.. So the same operation can produce two different results??

So that l/m * k/n = (l+k)/(m2+n2) ≠ (-l+k)/((-m)2+n2) = -l/-m * k/n = l/m * k/n
That's right, so the operation is not well defined.
Jan24-13, 01:07 PM   #5
 
Thank you very much jbunniii! Helped me a lot. I think we'll meet again.
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