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| Feb4-13, 06:52 AM | #1 |
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How can evaporation occur?
Since heat is transferred from a region of high temperature to low temperature if a few molecules have more energy, it would be transferred to the surrounding molecules. So if a molecule has 10J of heat it can only transfer some energy such that they have the same temperatures as each other.
So how can heat be transferred to the surface if the heat should be dissipated such that the temperatures are equal, how can the temperature of the surface be hotter than the rest of the molecules? Thanks for the help :) |
| Feb4-13, 09:06 AM | #2 |
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Heat transfer takes time and it isn't completely uniform.
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| Feb4-13, 09:36 AM | #3 |
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| Feb4-13, 09:41 AM | #4 |
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How can evaporation occur? thanks for the replyBecause at the surface of the liquid is where the a tiny amount of water molecules reaches 100 degrees? But that doesn't make sense to me because shouldn't heat be transferred away before that much heat can be accumulated? |
| Feb4-13, 11:07 AM | #5 |
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| Feb4-13, 11:35 AM | #6 |
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| Feb4-13, 12:39 PM | #7 |
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Boiling is a very special case of evaporation. It involves bubbles of vapour forming below the surface of the water. The bubbles usually form on minute concavities on the inside of the vessel below the liquid level, or on lime-scale or other solids below the water level. [The water is evaporating into minute air pockets in these concavities.] The bubbles are able to grow, and then break away and rise to the surface, when the saturated vapour pressure inside them is equal to the external pressure on them. This pressure is that of the atmosphere (about 101000 Pa) plus the extra pressures (usually negligible) of the liquid column above them and of surface tension at the bubble surface. So at what temperature is the svp of water equal to 101000 Pa? 100°C !
Ordinary evaporation from the exposed surface of a liquid is the unco-ordinated escape of individual molecules. They do not have to fight against atmospheric pressure, except inasmuch as they will collide with the molecules of air once they have escaped. So ordinary evaporation does not require the svp of the liquid to equal atmospheric pressure, as it does not involve bubbles of vapour having to grow and escape through the liquid against atmospheric pressure. Therefore ordinary evaporation can - and does - occur at much lower temperatures than 100°C. Even clothing put out to dry on a washing line in the open air in temperatures below 0°C will dry, though very slowly! |
| Feb4-13, 12:52 PM | #8 |
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Thanks for the help :) |
| Feb4-13, 01:01 PM | #9 |
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Temperature measures the average speed of the molecules, so even when the temperature is uniform throughout the liquid, some of the molecules are moving a bit faster than average and others a bit slower. At the surface of liquid, if one of the "bit faster" ones happens to moving in an upwards direction, it can escape. The effect is to slightly cool the surface; the faster-moving molecules are more likely to escape so the average energy of the ones left behind goes down. But as you say... heat moves from areas of high temperature to lower, so as the surface cools, heat flows from the warmer interior of the liquid and eliminates the temperature differential again. |
| Feb4-13, 01:04 PM | #10 |
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When you heat water, for example, it expands and the density therefore decreases. As a consequence of this, it is able to rise to the surface. |
| Feb4-13, 01:05 PM | #11 |
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First: please don't talk about heat "accumulating". Heat is energy in transit from a region of higher temperature to a region of lower temperature. If you are considering a defined region, then the energy residing in that region is classed as internal energy.
Evaporation is, as I said in my last post, the unco-ordinated escape of molecules from the exposed surface of a liquid. At any instant, molecules in the liquid will have different kinetic energies. Their mean kinetic energy is usually roughly proportional to the Kelvin temperature. Most of the molecules in the liquid won't have enough energy to escape from the liquid surface, against the (shortish-range) attractive forces from other molecules in the liquid surface. But some molecules (in a short time interval) will have experienced a succession of 'lucky' hits from other molecules, and so will have acquired energies well above the mean. Even enough energy for them to escape (if they are in the surface)! This is evaporation! |
| Feb4-13, 05:13 PM | #12 |
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The driving force for evaporation is equal to the equilibrium vapor pressure of the liquid at the interface minus the partial pressure of the same substance in the gas phase. Where does the heat come from to supply the heat of evaporation? It comes from the liquid below and the gas above. The temperature at the interface drops a little below that of the bulk liquid. This causes heat to flow from the bulk liquid to the interface. The interface might also be cooler than the gas above. This too would result in heat flow toward the interface. The rate of heat flow from the liquid below and the gas above will equal the rate of evaporation times the heat of evaporation.
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| Feb4-13, 11:17 PM | #13 |
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Oh but I'm having trouble understanding this 'lucky' bump concept. Usually if I a large metal block at 100 degrees and a piece of wood at 20 degrees, the heat will transfer from the metal to the piece of wood until both their temperature is the same and there would not be any heat transfer anymore. So when i apply this to the evaporation, it wouldn't make sense the surface molecules could gain more heat than the rest of the other molecules around it such that they are able to break free from the bulk of the liquid. i think i have a misconception here, but i can't seem to understand it. Thanks for the help :) |
| Feb4-13, 11:28 PM | #14 |
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-2j, 2j, 2j, 2j, 2j -2j, 2j, 2j, 3j, 1j and so forth. What Phillip Wood meant by 'lucky bump' was that some molecules may have undergone a collision with other molecules that provided them with sufficient energy to vaporize. Heat transfer of this form is known as Conduction. Conductionis heat transfer due to collision with other particles. Water molecules are attracted to each other by intermolecular forces known as the Van Der Waals forces. More specifically, in this case it is the hydrogen bond between the oxygen in one molecule and the hydrogen in the other. H2O---H2O (the --- represents the hydrogen bond.) If you provide sufficient energy you will increase molecular vibrations to an extent where the Van Der Waals forces can be overcome. Vaporization will take place as a result. Info on Van Der Waals Forces: http://www.physlink.com/education/askexperts/ae206.cfm |
| Feb4-13, 11:35 PM | #15 |
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So if i have 5 molecules and for one molecule to evaporate it must have 5J of heat while the total energy of 10J So they can split this way: 5J 1.25J 1.25J 1.25J 1.25J? If so why won't it work like this, shouldn't it be similar in the manner that once temperature is equalized than there should not be any transfer of energy anymore? |
| Feb4-13, 11:42 PM | #16 |
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[itex] E_k = \frac{1}{2} mv^2 [/itex] What this equation states is that Kinetic energy is equivalent to half of the mass times the square of the velocity. When molecules collide with each other, they can either increase in velocity or decrease, changing their kinetic energy. |
| Feb5-13, 12:38 AM | #17 |
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However, usually we would say that the temperature of the liquid would drop after evaporation. Would the explanation be something like this: after they transfer some KE to the surface molecules they have a smaller KE, hence once those surface molecules escape to form a gas the average KE of the liquid decreases and hence the temperature drops? |
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