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| Feb20-13, 01:42 AM | #1 |
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Derive an expression to find how many times an eigen value is repeated
Hello !
I have an upper triangular matrix for an operator T in which an eigen value has been repeated s times in total. Derive an expression for s . My thoughts : ( Let * imply contained in ) then :I know that : (a) Null T0 * Null T1 *.....*Null Tdim V = Null Tdim V + 1 = ........ (b) Will i have to investigate the effect of higher powers of ( T - k I ) where k is the intended eigen value ?? (c) the book which i am reading : Sheldon Axler's Linear Algebra hasn't introduced Jordan form as of now. Any direction for this will be appreciated. Thanks Can i prove it from these results ? |
| Feb21-13, 10:47 AM | #2 |
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I have no idea what you're trying to find. What do you mean with "an expression"? Do you have to find some expression?? This is a very vague question...
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| Feb21-13, 10:47 AM | #3 |
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The only thing I can think of is that the eigenvalue comes up s times on the diagonal. Maybe they mean that?
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| Feb21-13, 11:10 AM | #4 |
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Derive an expression to find how many times an eigen value is repeated
The answer given states that s = dim [ Null ( T - k I )dim V ]
where k is the corresponding eigen value. |
| Feb21-13, 11:12 AM | #5 |
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| Feb21-13, 11:15 AM | #6 |
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| Feb21-13, 11:19 AM | #7 |
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| Feb21-13, 11:36 AM | #8 |
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And why does Theorem 8.10 not answer the question for you?? I think it basically says and proves what you want.
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| Feb21-13, 11:43 AM | #9 |
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I found proof by induction unconvincing ; It assumes that the result is already true. ( It does not give an intuition .. ) I really want to derive the expression considering a situation , say, when i never knew what the answer is going to be in which case, probably induction is not going to work. I have thought about it and i think the answer may lie in investigating the behavior of higher powers of ( T - k I ) but i seem to be stuck for more than a week now, which is frustrating :( |
| Mar13-13, 05:08 AM | #10 |
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ok guys, i have finally found a proof. Took me long .I will post it for common good :)
if an eigen value λ is repeated r times on the main diagonal of M(T) [ where M(T) denotes the matrix associated with the linear mapping T ] , then M(T - λ I ) has r zeroes on the main diagonal. Speaking of higher powers of M(T - λ I ) ( say kth power ) , notice that under any circumstance, the non zero diagonal element of M(T - λ I ) would simply be their kth power for M(T - λ I ). -------------------- (A) since, the eigen vectors for non distinct eigen values may/may not be linearly independent => dim [ null (T - λ I ) ] ≤ r => dim [ range (T - λ I ) ] ≥ n-r Now, we know that : null (T - λ I )0 [itex]\subset[/itex] null (T - λ I )1[itex]\subset[/itex] ......... [itex]\subset[/itex] null (T - λ I )m =null (T - λ I )m+1=...... = null (T - λ I )dim V =.. => 0 < dim null (T - λ I ) < ... < dim null (T - λ I )m = dim[ null (T - λ I )m+1 ] = .... = dim null (T - λ I )dim V = .... ...................... (1) We also know that range (T - λ I )0 [itex]\supset[/itex] range (T - λ I )1[itex]\supset[/itex] .......... [itex]\supset[/itex] range (T - λ I )m = range (T - λ I )m+1 =... = range (T - λ I )dim V = ... => n > dim range (T - λ I )1 > ..... > dim range (T - λ I )m = dim range (T - λ I )m+1=...... dim range (T - λ I )dim V ........................ (2) after carefully analysing the statement (A) , it states that the minimum dimension of range of any power of ( T - λ I ) = n-r . If we try to look at the safest boundary conditions : max [ dim range (T - λ I ) ] = n-1 We already know that max [ dim [range (T - λ I )m ] ] = n-r and not less than that . => maximum value of m from statement (2) = r ---------------- (3) => dim range (T - λ I )r = n-r => dim null (T - λ I )r = r => from (1) : dim null (T - λ I )dim V = r . Hence, there you have the expression for the algebraic multiplicity of an eigen value. |
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