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Feb9-05, 08:33 PM   #1
 

Differential Equations - Linear Factor Proof


My class has recently done an intro to differential equations, and although I understand the method of solving simple equations, I want to know why the method of Linear Factors works. Unfortunately my book hasn't provided a proof for it.

Also in the final step where you integrate both sides of the equation:

[tex]\frac{d}{dx}[uy]=uq(x)[/tex]
the book says to integrate each side in respect to the variable in them

So I would have [tex]\int\frac{d}{dx}[uy] dy= \int uq(x)dx[/tex]
This doesn't make sense, considering each side has been multiplied by different differentials.
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Feb9-05, 08:40 PM   #2
 
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No,you've missed something and the final expression is totally wrong.
[tex] \frac{d}{dx}(uy)=uq(x) \Rightarrow d(uy)=uq(x) dx[/tex]

And now integrate.

Daniel.
Feb10-05, 08:19 AM   #3
 
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That is what I would call using an "integrating factor" to solve a linear equation.

You have a differential equation of the form
[tex]\frac{dy}{dx}+ p(x) y= q(x)[/tex]
and multiply by some function u(x) such that
[tex]u(x)\frac{dy}{dx}+ u(x)p(x) y= \frac{d(u(x)y)}{dx}[/tex]

It's easy to show that u(x) must satisfy u'= u(x)p(x), a separable equation.

I doubt that what you gave is, in fact, exactly what is in your book. (If it is it's a typo!)
What is correct is that
[tex]\int d[uy]= \int u(x)q(x)dx[/tex]

Of course, the integral on the left is just u(x)y.
Feb10-05, 09:25 PM   #4
 

Differential Equations - Linear Factor Proof


But the left side is missing the dy...

It seems suspect that you can multiply the dx as a fraction like that, then d[uy] really doesn't mean anything.

It's like performing math on notation... I'm sure it's just shorthand =/
Feb10-05, 09:45 PM   #5
 
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But the left side is missing the dy...
Yes.

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It seems suspect that you can multiply the dx as a fraction like that,
Only to the ones which are unfamilar to methods involving differentials.

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then d[uy] really doesn't mean anything.

Of course ot does.It's the differential of the product u(x)y.

Daniel.
Feb10-05, 10:22 PM   #6
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but [tex]\frac{d}{dx}[uy][/tex] is just notation for the derivative of uy, the dx isn't really a differential at all.

If it was, then in reality you would be dividing by dx... Are you telling me that d[uy] = dy?
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That "dx" BEARS the name "differential of the independent variable".It's not a differential "stricto sensu".

As for the last,i'm not that naive to claim such thing...They obviously represent different objects.

Daniel.
Feb10-05, 10:51 PM   #8
 
So where does that leave us? Also, don't you need a dy to integrate the left side?
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You have a "genuine" differential in the LHS which u can integrate without any problem...,ain't it so...?

Daniel.
Feb10-05, 11:49 PM   #10
 
I thought that you needed to know in respect to which variable. I've just been mechanically integrating both sides, but I don't know why the left side doesn't need a dy.

As far as I'm concerned, the LHS is just an equation which happens to be the differential. It would still need a dy (it reminds me of the fundamental theorem of calculus for some reason...?)
Feb10-05, 11:51 PM   #11
 
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Well,what does the FTC say and why do you think it would apply here directly...?

Daniel.
Feb11-05, 01:25 AM   #12
 
dexter, where did you learn all of your math from?
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About 99% from school,the rest individual study.Why?

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Feb11-05, 06:54 AM   #14
 
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The left side: d[uy] doesn't need a left side because it is a differential all by itself:

[itex]\int dx= x[/itex], [itex]\int dy= y[/itex], [itex]\int d(uy)= uy[/itex], etc.

You could, if you like, say [itex]\int\frac{d(uy)}{dx}dx= uy[/itex] but most people prefer not to have that 'double' dx.
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