How to Calculate the Volume of Hydrogen Gas from Liquid State?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the volume of hydrogen gas that can be obtained from a given mass of liquid hydrogen at specific conditions (25 degrees Celsius and 1 atm). The conversation includes theoretical and practical aspects of gas laws and conversions between states of matter.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a problem involving the conversion of liquid hydrogen to gas and asks for an equation to simplify the calculation.
  • Another participant suggests using the ideal gas law (PV = nRT) and provides the necessary constants and variables for the calculation.
  • A question is raised about whether the phase change from liquid to gas affects the number of moles of hydrogen.
  • One participant asserts that the number of moles remains constant during the phase change, allowing for volume prediction.
  • There is a discussion on the appropriate molar mass to use for hydrogen when converting mass to moles, with a preference for using the diatomic molecule H2.
  • Participants share their calculated volumes, with one stating an answer of approximately 2.39 x 10^5 L and another confirming a similar result.
  • There is a query regarding the value of the ideal gas constant R used in the calculations, with participants mentioning different values.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the use of the ideal gas law for the calculations and the importance of using the correct molar mass for hydrogen. However, there is no explicit consensus on the final volume calculation, as participants provide slightly different values for R and their results.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve potential uncertainties regarding the assumptions made in the calculations, such as the ideal behavior of gases under the given conditions.

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Students or individuals interested in gas laws, phase changes, and practical applications of chemistry in calculating gas volumes from liquid states.

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If 277 L of LIQUID hydrogen has a mass of 19.7 kg, what volume will this amount of hydrogen occupy as a GAS at 25 degrees celsius and 1 atm?



Is there some kind of equation that I can use to make this problem easier?

THANKS!
 
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PV = nRT

You'll use this equation for almost every gas problem.

R (ideal-gas constant) = 0.0821 L-atm/mole-K
V = volume (L)
P = pressure (atm)
n = amount (moles)
T = temperature (K)

V = nRT/P

You need to convert the 19.7 kg H2 to moles H2 and the 25 C to Kelvin.

If you need more help, go ahead and ask.
 
Do you have to take into account the hydrogen beginning as a LIQUID and ending as a GAS?
 
No because when you go from a liquid to a gas, the number of moles of H2 will still stay the same and therefore you can predict the volume.
 
When converting 19.7 Kg to moles would you use H2 (being 2.0158g) or just H (being 1.0079g)?
 
Good question. Always use the diatomic molecule...so H2.
 
Thanks for your help. So if i have done things right my answer should be close to 2.39 X 10^5 L :smile:
 
Yes I got a similar answer. By the way, what value are you using for R? 0.0821 or something more precise?
 
For this problem I just used 0.0821, but usually I use 0.082057
 

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