Understanding Tension in a Simple Bridge System

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The discussion revolves around a static equilibrium problem involving a simple bridge system with a mass supported by a rope and pulley. The bridge is uniform, 6 meters long, and has a mass of 100 kg, with a 110 kg mass hanging from the rope at an angle of 30 degrees to the horizontal.

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  • The original poster attempts to establish a relationship between tension and the distances involved in the system, questioning the value of a specific distance (y). Some participants suggest using moments to analyze the static condition, while others discuss the components of forces involved in the calculations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing different perspectives on the calculations involved. There is an exploration of the correct components of tension to use in the moment calculations, and some guidance has been offered regarding the static nature of the problem.

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Participants are navigating the assumptions related to the static equilibrium of the bridge and the forces acting upon it, including the center of mass and the angles involved in the tension calculations.

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Dear all

A simple bridge made from uniform 6m long platform, whose centre of mass is at its midpoint. The mass of the bridge is 100kg. At one end A of the bridge, there is a frictionless hinge. A rope of negligible mass is attached to the other end B. This rope passes over a small frictionless pulley and supports a 110kg mass on its other end.

When the bridge is horizontal, the rope makes, at B, an angle of 30 degree to the horizontal. We may assume that the bridge is horizontal and motionless.

My solution is :

Let y be distance between the rope and the mass 110kg

Thus, T x 6 x cos30 = y x mg

But I don't know what is value of y. Would you mind teach me? Thank very much. Good Bye

Billy
 
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Since it's a static problem (no motion), you're just summing the moments, which equals zero (because it's static).

Anyway, since it seems you were using point A as your datum, the value for y would be 3 (because the force of the bridge acts at its center of gravity...the middle of beams/bridges/simple structures like that).
 
Oh, and it seems to me that it would be T*6*sin30, and not cos30.

When calculating moments, you use the component of force perpendicular to the object it is acting upon.
 
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Thank very much.

In Figure 2, I think that 6 x cos 30 is correct answer. Why is your answer 6 x sin30? Thank a lot. Good Bye

Billy
 
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