How Do Hand Crank Power Devices Work?

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The discussion revolves around the mechanics and principles behind hand crank power devices, such as those used in radios, flashlights, and chargers. Participants explore the components involved, including gearing, generators, and energy storage methods, while also sharing personal anecdotes related to their experiences with such devices.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that hand crank devices likely involve gearing and a small generator, questioning how energy is stored—whether as mechanical energy or in a battery or capacitor.
  • Another participant confirms the use of gearing and a generator, noting that some devices charge a capacitor or battery, while sharing details about older field telephones that utilize a hand crank to generate a small current and high voltage AC.
  • A participant reflects on their past experiences with electrical devices, expressing a newfound appreciation for disassembling electronics after gaining more knowledge in physics.
  • One participant recounts a lesson involving a field generator, highlighting the dangers of electricity and the voltage levels that can be lethal.
  • Another participant discusses the relationship between voltage, current, and frequency, suggesting that the effects of electricity on the body depend on these factors.
  • A further contribution explains how frequency affects current flow in the body, with high frequency electricity being primarily conducted by the skin and potentially causing different physiological effects.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints regarding the mechanics of hand crank devices and the effects of electricity on the body. There is no consensus on the specifics of how these devices operate or the implications of electrical exposure, indicating multiple competing views and unresolved questions.

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The discussion includes references to personal experiences and anecdotal evidence, which may not fully capture the technical complexities of the devices or the physiological effects of electricity. Assumptions about the safety and functionality of electrical components are present but not explicitly defined.

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I've seen them on radios, cell phone charges and flashlights. I haven't seen one in person, but I just want to get an idea of how they work. I'm guessing some massive gearing and a small generator/motor? And what does it use to store the energy? Or is it stored mechanical energy?
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Philip
 
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Hello,
You are correct about some gearing and a small generator. These devices can be made to utilize the hand power in different ways. I’ve seen little flashlights and radios sold to the general public that use the generator to charge a capacitor or battery. The field telephones that I’ve had for many years (circa 1952) use two D-cell batteries to send the voice signals over the wires, and the hand crank is used for ringing the bell of the phone you’re calling. What is produced is a small current and about and around 90 volts ac (when cranked swiftly). After cranking, you flip a lever on the handset to energize the system from the batteries.
 
Thanks for the insight.
By the way, to kill two birds with one stone, I will make this comment here.
Also thanks for the info on the transformer, sorry for calling you Terry, my mistake.
For my part box, I've been collecting everyone's old stuff for the last year, so I'm up to about 20+ transformers in my collection. It is such a shame that I threw all that stuff in the past. I use to take everything apart as a kid, but didn't know jack from didely, so I threw everything away. I would have to say it's much more fun taking the stuff apart now that I've had physics II :) Can't wait for the more serious classes.
Philip
 
As a "lesson," our junior high shop teacher would have one of us hold onto a field generator's leads while another one cranked it. Needless to say, we let go of the wires ASAP! That 50 volts, I found out later, is enough to kill you. [b(]
 
Originally posted by Loren Booda
As a "lesson," our junior high shop teacher would have one of us hold onto a field generator's leads while another one cranked it. Needless to say, we let go of the wires ASAP! That 50 volts, I found out later, is enough to kill you.

Actually, getting killed by electricity is a bit weird. It ultimately depends not only on the voltage and current, but also on the frequency.
 
I guess you are referring to the body's reactance? Also, one frequency may, e. g., reinforce the heart, whereas another may cause it to defibrillate.
 
Actually, the frequency determines where the current flows. High frequency electricity is primarily conducted by the skin and is less likely to cause problems or causes different problems.

The range of currents that cause fibrilation is relatively small, and higher currents will simply cause the entire heart to contract at once - resetting it. (Fibrilation is when the heart doesn't contract cohesively so it ceases pumping blood. Defibriliation usually refers to the application of current to try to reset or restart a heart that is fibrilating, or has stopped beating.)
 
A good lesson, Nate!
 

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