Exploding black holes rain down on Earth

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The discussion revolves around the concept of small black holes potentially impacting Earth, specifically focusing on their evaporation rates, growth probabilities, and the conditions under which they might absorb nearby particles. The conversation touches on theoretical implications and observational challenges related to these phenomena.

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  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express fascination with the idea of black holes dissipating and their small size, questioning the likelihood of them growing by absorbing nearby particles.
  • There is a discussion about whether existing models provide a non-zero probability for small black holes to grow, with some participants suggesting that the probability may be nearly zero due to their rapid evaporation and the short range of their gravitational influence.
  • One participant notes that as black holes decrease in size, they emit higher energy photons and evaporate more quickly, making it unlikely for them to remain long enough to interact with surrounding matter.
  • Another participant raises the question of what the critical density of matter would be for a small black hole to successfully absorb nearby particles, and whether such conditions could exist in celestial bodies.
  • Concerns are expressed about the mechanics at play, questioning if it is fundamentally impossible for particles to get close enough to be absorbed, rendering the concept of critical density irrelevant.
  • A participant queries why these small black holes, which are theorized to explode rapidly, have not been detected by radio observatories.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the rapid evaporation of small black holes and their unlikely growth due to environmental conditions, but there remains disagreement on the specifics of growth probability and the critical density required for absorption, leaving the discussion unresolved.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions about the conditions necessary for black hole growth and the definitions of critical density, as well as the unresolved nature of the theoretical predictions related to these phenomena.

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Part of what's fascinating to me is the rate at which these black holes dissipate; that they are so small, and their massive gravity extended for so short a distance that it is virtually impossible for them to come into contact with another particle so that they actually grow.

But I do wonder, does the existing model actually give a non-zero probability that they will grow? Or is there some other contraint as to why they do not absorb another nearby particle (thus making this probability actually zero)?
 
Originally posted by Soveraign
Part of what's fascinating to me is the rate at which these black holes dissipate; that they are so small, and their massive gravity extended for so short a distance that it is virtually impossible for them to come into contact with another particle so that they actually grow.

But I do wonder, does the existing model actually give a non-zero probability that they will grow? Or is there some other contraint as to why they do not absorb another nearby particle (thus making this probability actually zero)?

As black holes get smaller, they radiate higher energy photons, and 'evaporate' more rapidly. That means that it's very unlikely for a small black hole to stay around for very long at all, and the mass of a stray molecule or two in the air will probably not tip the balance to make them large enough to start sucking in air.

AFAIK, the behavior of super-small black holes is extremely interesting to scientists because it is at a crux between Qantum Mechanics and Special relativity which both make different assumptions about the universe, and both make very good predicitions.
 
I'm aware of the evaporation of black holes (at any size) and the fact they have such a short life time on that small scale that they are not expected to suck in nearby particles. What I'm curious about though is that probability actually zero or only nearly zero? Or, even if it isn't quite zero, the density of matter in the atmosphere just isn't enough no matter what the circumstance to cause the thing to grow (which I suspect is closer to the truth considering we are still around :) ).

If that is the case, then what, exactly, would be the critical density of matter to cause a super-small black hole, created possibly from some stray high energy particle, to successfully suck in nearby matter? Would such a condition exist inside known celestial bodies?

OR, are the mechanics at that level such that it is quite litterally impossible for a nearby particle to actually get close enough to be sucked in, thus the question of critical density being irrelavent?

I'm curious if anyone has attempted to work out some theoretical predictions? (something possibly testable by the LHC)
 
These black holes would be invisibly small, with a mass of only 10 micrograms or so. And they would be so unstable that they would explode in a burst of particles within around a billion-billion-billionth of a second.

Why wouldn't these be detected by radio observatories since they explode at such a rate?
 
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