Dating techniques for our universe

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In summary, the age of our universe is estimated to be around 13.7 billion years based on parameters such as energy density, matter density, and the Hubble parameter. The main source of information for these estimates is the cosmic microwave background radiation, but other sources such as supernovae can also provide some information. While there are some methods of trying to determine the age of the universe using elements within our solar system, it is difficult to do so accurately due to the potential contamination of these elements by different supernovae events. Ultimately, the true accuracy of these techniques may be open to debate due to the assumptions and limitations involved.
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Can someone tell me why people age our universe at about 13.7 billion years? I know this is done with WMAP, but I can't seem to make much of that. Is there a measurement that aims to explain the age of our universe with just the help of our solar system?

I know there are some methods of trying to find out it's age, with the following: globular clusters, radioactive elements, and Cosmic microwave background radiation (CMB) which is done by the Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe (WMAP) and tempature measurements.

The only star we can measure that is not light years away is our sun. The sun is supposed to be 4.5 billion years old measured through stellar evolution, and nucleocosmochronology. Do other techniques give us the same answer?

Can we prove that any of these techniques are truly true?
 
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The age of the universe is basically determined by four parameters in the cosmological model under consideration: the energy density in the universe, the energy density of matter related to the critical density ([itex]\Omega_M[/itex]), the energy density of the cosmological constant related to the critical density ([itex]\Omega_{\Lambda}[/itex]) and the value of the Hubble parameter today ([itex]H_0[/itex]). These parameters together with the Friedmann equations allow you to determine the age. For the estimation of these parameters the main source of information is the angular power spectrum of the anisotropies in the cosmic microwave background. One takes this as an input to put constraints on the parameter space that determine the whole cosmological model. By the way, the usual parameter set is far larger than just these four parameters and this it is not possible to determine all four values unequivocally with the data (there is some degeneracy). However, there are other sources of information that can be used to determine some of these four parameters, for example, the [itex]\Omega_{\Lambda}[/itex] can be estimated from the luminosity curves of the supernovae 1a.
 
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Is there a measurement that aims to explain the age of our universe with just the help of our solar system?

Well, our solar system only formed around 4.5 billion years ago, so most of the "structures" (planets, comets, the sun, asteroids, etc.) we see around us are of that age or less. The only things we find locally that could be much older than that would be the elements themselves. This might suggest that we could do radioactive dating on elements formed in some of the early supernovae, but in order to do that, we would need a sample of heavy elements that we could safely assume to have originated in the early universe. Since the contents of our solar system could have been enriched by supernovae of any age prior to its formation, I don't see how this could be done. We might be able to date something passing through our solar system, but I think we'd have to get pretty lucky.


I know there are some methods of trying to find out it's age, with the following: globular clusters, radioactive elements, and Cosmic microwave background radiation (CMB) which is done by the Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe (WMAP) and tempature measurements.

If you haven't already done so, check out the age post in my Review of Mainstream Cosmology. There's also a link to a review paper with more information.


The only star we can measure that is not light years away is our sun. The sun is supposed to be 4.5 billion years old measured through stellar evolution, and nucleocosmochronology. Do other techniques give us the same answer?

We can date the earth, which presumably formed at the same time. Here's a nice website discussing these measurements:

The Age of the Earth


Can we prove that any of these techniques are truly true?

I don't know what you mean. True in what sense? Most of them don't measure the age of the universe directly, but instead the age of something in the universe. This makes them lower limits (i.e. the universe must be older than these things). Also, the age of the universe obtained from cosmological measurements makes certain physical assumptions, like hellfire already pointed out, so it would be open to question, but for a different reason.
 

What is the purpose of dating techniques for our universe?

Dating techniques for our universe help us to determine the age of different objects and events in the history of the universe, such as the formation of stars and galaxies.

What are the different types of dating techniques used for the universe?

There are several dating techniques used for the universe, including radiometric dating, cosmic chronology, and astronomical dating methods.

How accurate are these dating techniques?

The accuracy of dating techniques for the universe can vary depending on the method used and the age of the object being dated. Generally, these techniques can provide accurate results within a range of a few million years.

Can dating techniques be used to determine the age of the entire universe?

No, dating techniques can only be used to determine the age of objects and events within the observable universe. The age of the entire universe is estimated to be around 13.8 billion years, based on observations of the cosmic microwave background radiation.

How do dating techniques for the universe support scientific theories and models?

Dating techniques for the universe provide evidence that supports scientific theories and models about the formation and evolution of the universe. By determining the ages of different objects and events, scientists can better understand the history of the universe and how it has changed over time.

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