Classical mechanics and specific relativity

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of the time it takes for neutrons from the sun to reach the Earth, with a focus on comparing classical mechanics and special relativity in this context.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the implications of using classical mechanics versus special relativity for particles traveling at significant speeds, questioning the validity of assuming neutrons travel at the speed of light.

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Participants are actively questioning the assumptions made about the speed of neutrons and the applicability of classical mechanics in this scenario. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need for special relativity at high speeds, but there is no explicit consensus on the assumptions being made.

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The speed of the neutrons is not provided, leading to assumptions that may not align with physical principles. The discussion also touches on the decay of neutrons and their thermal interactions with the atmosphere.

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i was asked to calculate the time that the neutrons from the sun reach the earth. i had no problem with that but my problem comes from the 2nd part.

i was asked "would you expect a solution based on classical mechanices to differ significantly from one based on special relativity and why?"

what i thought is: there's no difference since the speed of light is the same in the inertial frame since light travel through the vacuum to reach the Earth without being affects by gravity.

is that thought valid? i dun have much knowledge in relativity.

also, i was asked to predict what will happen to the neutrons that reach the Earth with their full initial energy and then slow down to thermal equilibrium with atoms in the atmosphere.

my answer: neutrons slow down due to the decrease in temperature and decay since its halflife is just 10.25 minutes and it took 8.3 minutes to reach the earth.

again, is that reasonable?

thanks for your help. appreciate that
 
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Originally posted by nuclear
i was asked to calculate the time that the neutrons from the sun reach the earth. i had no problem with that but my problem comes from the 2nd part.

i was asked "would you expect a solution based on classical mechanices to differ significantly from one based on special relativity and why?"
Generally, if the speed of the particle is a significant fraction of the speed of light then special relativity is needed for an accurate answer. For slow (compared to light) speeds, classical mechanics works just fine. How fast were the neutrons going compared to the speed of light?
 
no, the speed of the neutron is not given and i assumed the neutron travel at the speed of light to earth. is it reasonable?

so i guess the answer won't differ too signigicantly since the law of physics works under different frame and just the classical mechanics is not that good dealing with light speed? is that valid?

thanks for your help.
 
Originally posted by nuclear
no, the speed of the neutron is not given and i assumed the neutron travel at the speed of light to earth. is it reasonable?
No.
so i guess the answer won't differ too signigicantly since the law of physics works under different frame and just the classical mechanics is not that good dealing with light speed? is that valid?
I don't understand your statement. As I said earlier, the closer the speed is to that of light, the more you need to apply special relativity to get accurate results.
 

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