| Thread Closed |
L-normed vector space |
Share Thread | Thread Tools |
| Feb8-06, 08:40 AM | #1 |
|
|
L-normed vector space
Hi
I'm given the following assignment which deals with to looks like an L-normed vectorspace: Prove that, [tex]|f(y_1) - f(y_2)| \leq || y_1 - y_2||[/tex] To prove this do I approach the above as a triangle inequality or as a cauchy-swartz inequality? Best Regards, Fred |
| Feb8-06, 09:07 AM | #2 |
|
Recognitions:
|
What do you know about f ? How is the norm defined?
|
| Feb8-06, 09:15 AM | #3 |
|
|
Hello and thank You for Your reply,
f is defined as follows: [tex]f: \mathbb{R}^n \rightarrow \mathbb{R}[/tex] and [tex]y1, y2 \in \mathbb{R}^n[/tex] Best Regards, Fred |
| Feb8-06, 09:32 AM | #4 |
|
Recognitions:
|
L-normed vector space
More must be given, (or I am just that tired) since
[tex]|f(y_1) - f(y_2)| \leq || y_1 - y_2||[/tex] does not, in general (under those conditions), hold for arbitrary f:R^n->R, like, say, put [tex]f(y)=2 ||y||[/tex] with y2=0 and y1=y gives [tex]|f(y) - f(0)| = 2||y|| \not\leq || y - 0||[/tex] |
| Feb8-06, 10:02 AM | #5 |
|
|
Hello again,
According to my textbook the first step is to show that [tex] f(y_2) \leq || y_1 - y_2|| + f(y_1)[/tex] The is a sub-problem of a problem which deals distance from a point to a set. f is defined as the distance from a point in [tex] \mathbb{R}^n [/tex] to a subset S of [tex]\mathbb{R}^n[/tex] and finally I'm suppose to conclude that f is Uniform continuites on [tex] \mathbb{R}^n[/tex] Any idears? Best Regards, Fred |
| Feb8-06, 10:13 AM | #6 |
|
Recognitions:
|
[tex]f_S(y)=\mbox{inf}\left\{ \|x-y\| : x\in S\right\}[/tex] for [tex]y\in\mathbb{R}^n[/tex] I put a subscript of S on f since f depends on S, but consider S fixed and supress the subscript from here on. [tex] f(y_2) \leq || y_1 - y_2|| + f(y_1)[/tex] is the statement that [tex] \mbox{inf}\left\{ \|x-y_2\| : x\in S\right\} \leq \| y_1 - y_2\| + \mbox{inf}\left\{ \|x-y_1\| : x\in S\right\}[/tex], how could you prove that? |
| Feb8-06, 10:21 AM | #7 |
|
|
By showing that normed distance from x to y1 and from x to y2 are equal? Cause they belong to the same subset? Best Regards Fred |
| Feb8-06, 10:28 AM | #8 |
|
Recognitions:
|
By the triangle inequality, for all [tex]x,y_1,y_2\in\mathbb{R}^n[/tex], we have
[tex]\|x-y_2\| \leq \| y_1 - y_2\| +\|x-y_1\|[/tex], and since [tex]x\in S\mbox{ and }S\subset\mathbb{R}^n[/tex], we may restrict x to be in S and inf over x in S to obtain [tex] \mbox{inf}\left\{ \|x-y_2\| : x\in S\right\} \leq \mbox{inf}\left\{\| y_1 - y_2\| + \|x-y_1\| : x\in S\right\} = \| y_1 - y_2\| + \mbox{inf}\left\{ \|x-y_1\| : x\in S\right\}[/tex] |
| Feb8-06, 10:33 AM | #9 |
|
|
Hello again and thank You for Your answer,
And this shows, that [tex]|f(y_1) - f(y_2)| \leq || y_1 - y_2||[/tex] is true? Best Regards Fred |
| Feb8-06, 10:49 AM | #10 |
|
Recognitions:
|
Swap y1 and y2, see what you get.
|
| Feb8-06, 11:03 AM | #11 |
|
|
Hello again,
then [tex]|f(y_1) - f(y_2)| \leq || y_1 - y_2||[/tex] since [tex] \mbox{inf}\left\{ \|x-y_2\| : x\in S\right\} - \| y_1 - y_2\| \leq \mbox{inf}\left\{\| y_1 - y_2\| + \|x-y_1\| : x\in S\right\} [/tex] ? Best Regards Fred |
| Feb8-06, 11:26 AM | #12 |
|
Recognitions:
|
Of this
[tex] \mbox{inf}\left\{ \|x-y_2\| : x\in S\right\} \leq \mbox{inf}\left\{\| y_1 - y_2\| + \|x-y_1\| : x\in S\right\} = \| y_1 - y_2\| + \mbox{inf}\left\{ \|x-y_1\| : x\in S\right\}[/tex] you need only first and last bits (including the <= sign), namely [tex] \mbox{inf}\left\{ \|x-y_2\| : x\in S\right\} \leq \| y_1 - y_2\| + \mbox{inf}\left\{ \|x-y_1\| : x\in S\right\}[/tex] in this, swap y1 and y2, to get [tex] \mbox{inf}\left\{ \|x-y_1\| : x\in S\right\} \leq \| y_2 - y_1\| + \mbox{inf}\left\{ \|x-y_2\| : x\in S\right\}[/tex] and since [tex] \| y_2 - y_1\| = \| y_1 - y_2\| ,[/tex] we have this pair of inequalities [tex]\boxed{\begin{array}{cc} \mbox{inf}\left\{ \|x-y_2\| : x\in S\right\} \leq \| y_1 - y_2\| + \mbox{inf}\left\{ \|x-y_1\| : x\in S\right\} \\ \mbox{inf}\left\{ \|x-y_1\| : x\in S\right\} \leq \| y_1 - y_2\| + \mbox{inf}\left\{ \|x-y_2\| : x\in S\right\} \end{array} } [/tex] thinking of theses as being of the form [tex]A\leq k+B[/tex] [tex]B\leq k+A[/tex] we then have [tex]A-B\leq k[/tex] and [tex]B-A\leq k[/tex] thus [tex]|B-A| \leq k[/tex] i.e. [tex]|f(y_1) - f(y_2)| \leq || y_1 - y_2||[/tex] |
| Feb8-06, 01:14 PM | #13 |
|
|
Hello again, and thank You for Your answers,
I need to conclude that the function f is is uniformly continius on [tex]\mathbb{R}^n[/tex]. In order to show this by proving that definition of uniformly continious functions applies to my specific f function? Best Regards, Fred |
| Feb8-06, 02:10 PM | #14 |
|
Recognitions:
|
What is the definition of a uniformly continuous function?
|
| Feb8-06, 02:29 PM | #15 |
|
|
Definition:uniformly continuous function
S is a subset of [tex]\mathbb{R}^n[/tex] and [tex]f: S \rightarrow \mathbb{R}[/tex] be a real valued function. The function f is said to be uniformly continuous, if there for every epsilon > 0, exists a delta > 0 such that, |f(x) - f(y) | < epsilon for all x,y \in S, which statisfies that ||x - y|| < delta Do I then apply this definition to my given f(x) ? and use it to show how f(x) = 0, if x belongs to Y ? Best Regards Fred |
| Feb8-06, 02:56 PM | #16 |
|
Recognitions:
|
And do U mean x belongs to S? Indeed it is a simple matter that f(x)=0 for every x in S, since (for fixed x) the shortest distance between x and y when y is allowed to be x is 0. |
| Feb8-06, 04:47 PM | #17 |
|
|
then according to the definition of uniformly continious functions then [tex]|x - y| = |x| - |y|[/tex] From here I'm a bit unsure Do I do the following y = x + [tex]\delta[/tex] then [tex]x \geq 0 [/tex] [tex]|x - (x+ \delta)| = \delta[/tex] then [tex]|x - (x+ \delta)| < \epsilon[/tex] futermore since [tex]\delta > 0[/tex] according to the definition: [tex]\delta < \epsilon[/tex] therefore f is uniformly continious. Am I on the right path here? Best Regards Fred |
| Thread Closed |
| Thread Tools | |
Similar Threads for: L-normed vector space
|
||||
| Thread | Forum | Replies | ||
| Normed space and its double dual | Linear & Abstract Algebra | 1 | ||
| Converting a vector from world space to local space | Classical Physics | 0 | ||
| Vector Space Algebra of Minkowski Space | Linear & Abstract Algebra | 4 | ||
| Normed Vector Spaces | Calculus & Beyond Homework | 2 | ||
| Every vector space is the dual of some other vector space | Calculus & Beyond Homework | 9 | ||