How Does Redesigning a Rollercoaster with a Spring Affect Physics Calculations?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem related to the redesign of a rollercoaster that incorporates a spring mechanism. The context involves analyzing energy conservation principles and the dynamics of motion as the rollercoaster cart interacts with the spring and the track layout.

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  • Participants discuss the conservation of energy in relation to the rollercoaster's height and the initial velocity required for the cart to return to its starting point. There are questions about the setup of the problem and the implications of the spring's properties on the cart's motion.

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Some participants are attempting to clarify the problem's parameters, particularly the starting point of the rollercoaster and the implications for energy calculations. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between kinetic energy and potential energy, as well as the energy stored in the spring.

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Participants note confusion regarding the diagram and the initial conditions of the rollercoaster's motion, including the height differences and the spring's role in stopping the cart. There is also mention of constraints related to the available space for the spring's operation.

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Ok so here's the picture that the problems are based on.

http://www.daocplace.com/tng/tng/uploader/uploaded/physics.JPG

Background Info:
The amusement park decides to redesign the rollercoaster by removing the safety ramp and replacing it with an ideal spring that will shoot the cart back through the roller-coaster backwards. The stretch of frictional track is made frictionless, set to 10.0 m long, and the giant spring is set up as shown, over another frictionless stretch of track.

As a note, the ramp on the far right is not part of the track. Also this is assuming that gravity is 10 m/s^2.

Question 1:
What minimum initial velocity does the car nee dto make it back to the top at the start of the ride?

I know this had to do with conservation of energy but I don't have any velocities to start off with, so I can't do any kinetic energy calculations.

Question 2:
If the park only has 20.0 m of space to devote to the slowing of the cart by the spring, what is the "k" of the spring required to get the cart to slow to a stop?

Again I am completely lost as to what to do here.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I don't want to fail. :(
EDIT: D'oh. Didn't see the homework help zone. Sorrow.
 
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Can someone please help? I know it is long but I can't figure it out myself.
 
According to the illustration, the highest point that the roller coaster reaches is at the other end. So, if energy is conserved, you have the minimum kinetic energy at h=20. Since the starting point is h=15, there is a change in height of 5m, so KE=mgh=m50=1/2 m v2.

The initial velocity is 10 m/s.

The energy stored in a spring is 1/2 kx2 where x is the displacement of the spring. Clearly to stop the roler coaster, the spring must store all of the energy of motion of the roller coaster.
 
THanks...but the start is at the right side. My teacher drew it all crazy. Does that make a difference though?

Also I'm not sure if it's clear but the problem is saying that the train starts from the right with initial velocity, v, goes through to the left bounces off the spring and returns to the initial point (on the right). So the minimum initial velocity is to go from right to left to right? Hopefully that makes more sense.
 
Anyone else?
 

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