Can You Install Two CPUs on a Motherboard?

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility and performance implications of installing two CPUs on a motherboard, specifically focusing on P4 and AMD CPUs. Participants explore the availability of such motherboards, the performance benefits in various computing scenarios, and the impact of software compatibility.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the availability of motherboards that support dual CPUs, noting that options for AMD MP boards are limited.
  • Performance improvements from dual CPUs are discussed, with some suggesting that the boost depends heavily on the type of software being used, with most applications not benefiting significantly from multiple CPUs.
  • One participant claims that in rare cases, with optimal hardware and software, performance could improve by up to 90%, though this is not common.
  • Hyperthreading technology is mentioned as a factor that can enhance performance, with potential increases ranging from 10% to 40% depending on the operating system and application compatibility.
  • There is a distinction made between performance gains in multitasking scenarios versus single-thread applications, with some asserting that there is no performance difference in single-threaded contexts.
  • Participants discuss licensing requirements from Microsoft regarding CPUs, clarifying that a license is not needed for each CPU in a machine.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the performance benefits of dual CPUs, with some emphasizing the limitations based on software capabilities while others suggest significant potential improvements under specific conditions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the extent of performance gains and the implications of hyperthreading.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the dependence on software optimization and the specific use cases for dual CPU setups, indicating that performance outcomes are not uniform across different applications and operating systems.

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In the market, do we have motherboards that can install 2 P4 or AMD CPUs?



 
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Yes...
 
of course...

use google, it isn't hard.
 
Originally posted by Saint

In the market, do we have motherboards that can install 2 P4 or AMD CPUs?
Not many of the AMD MP boards around though.
 


Originally posted by russ_watters
Not many of the AMD MP boards around though.

How much it boost the performance of the PC when compared to a single processor PC ?[?]
 
It depends what you're using the computer for. For most purposes, not at all. Programs can only use one CPU unless they're specifically written to take advantage of more. Some games can do this, but even then a second processor usually only gives you a ~25% speed boost.

SMP (multiple CPUs) is mainly useful if you are running a server of some sort, which is running many separate programs/tasks at once. Then the multiple processors can give the server a big performance boost.
 


Originally posted by Saint
How much it boost the performance of the PC when compared to a single processor PC ?[?]
If the hardware is VERY good and the software (and operating system) is VERY well written you may be able to get a 90% improvement in some rare cases.

AFAIK, there are still no games that employ SMP. Quake3 did initially but it was an incomplete feature that was discarded in an update.
 
I've ben reading some good things about Intel's Hyperthreading technology. In short it can generate anywhere from ten to 40 percent increases in performance when a compatible OS is used. I believe IBM ran some benchmarks a couple of months ago comparing 'regular' and hyperthread architectures using XP Pro and Linux (not sure if it was a stock kernel or patched). Google for more answers.

As previously mentioned the performance results for dualCPU designs are highly dependent on the OS (WinXP Pro, Win2K, Linux, xBSD, SolarisX86) and the ability of the application to utilize it.

Q: Does Microsoft still require a license for each CPU in a machine?
 
Originally posted by mcleodnine
I've ben reading some good things about Intel's Hyperthreading technology. In short it can generate anywhere from ten to 40 percent increases in performance when a compatible OS is used. I believe IBM ran some benchmarks a couple of months ago comparing 'regular' and hyperthread architectures using XP Pro and Linux (not sure if it was a stock kernel or patched). Google for more answers.

As previously mentioned the performance results for dualCPU designs are highly dependent on the OS (WinXP Pro, Win2K, Linux, xBSD, SolarisX86) and the ability of the application to utilize it.

Q: Does Microsoft still require a license for each CPU in a machine?
Thats 40% WHEN MULTITASKING. For single thread applications there is zero difference in performance.

No, MS doesn't require a license for each cpu.
 
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Originally posted by russ_watters
Thats 40% WHEN MULTITASKING. For single thread applications there is zero difference in performance.



OKAY.

Here's the original article from IBM
 
  • #11
Originally posted by mcleodnine
OKAY.

Here's the original article from IBM
Not sure if you're saying you don't believe me, but in any case, this sentence is key:
The results on Linux kernel 2.4.19 show Hyper-Threading technology could improve multithreaded applications by 30%. Current work on Linux kernel 2.5.32 may provide performance speed-up as much as 51%.
"multithreaded applications"
 

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