I Just Bought a Townhouse - 3 Beds, 2.5 Baths, Garage, Deck

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The discussion revolves around a participant's recent agreement to purchase a townhouse, including details about its features and the home-buying process. Participants share congratulations, personal experiences related to home ownership, and various opinions on home inspections, financing, and potential challenges in the process.

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  • One participant mentions they signed an agreement of sale for a townhouse with specific features, including 3 bedrooms and 2.5 baths.
  • Several participants express congratulations and share their hopes for the new homeowner's enjoyment and success in the new living situation.
  • Some participants discuss the importance of home inspections, with differing opinions on whether skipping it is advisable, especially for newer homes.
  • There are questions about the square footage calculation, particularly regarding whether the garage is included in the total living space.
  • One participant humorously notes the potential for the new homeowner to display personal collections in the new space.
  • Concerns are raised about the reliability of disclosure statements and the potential for hidden issues in the home.
  • Some participants share personal anecdotes about their own home-buying experiences, including challenges faced during inspections and the overall process.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the excitement of home ownership and share congratulations, but there is disagreement regarding the necessity of a home inspection and the implications of skipping it. Multiple views on the inclusion of garage space in square footage calculations are also present.

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Participants express varying levels of concern about potential issues with the home, the reliability of inspections, and the implications of disclosure statements. There are also references to local practices regarding square footage calculations that may differ by region.

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Individuals interested in home buying, real estate, or those seeking insights into the home ownership experience may find this discussion relevant.

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Well, sort of - it's a townhouse, and I didn't just buy it, but I did sign an agreement of sale. We'll close it next month. Its a 3 bedroom, 2.5 bath, garage, walkout basement, deck. (the one on the right)
 

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Way to go! It looks nice. I hope you really enjoy liveing there, and have great neighbors!
 
Nice home! I was just looking yesterday how much I could loan to buy a house, I think I'll start looking for one soon.
 
Congratulations Russ!

Just remember: You don't own it, rather, it owns you. :biggrin:
 
Congrats Russ!
 
Congrats russ!
 
Congratulations Russ! :approve: :cool:

Hopefully the plumbing and electrical are decent, and the roof is tight.

Now you own a mortgage, or does the mortgage own you. I forget. :smile:

What's the backyard like?
 
2.5 bath?What happened to the other .5?
 
Looks like a great place: fairly new, pleasant design, bit of woods in the back. I bet you'll like it there.
 
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The best part is itemizing deductions! WOO-HOO, Schedule A!
 
  • #11
Look at the size of that place. Think of all the wall space and shelf space you have to display all the Disney stuff!

Zz.
 
  • #12
You've just entered the exciting part of the purchase...the time for the home inspection and the resultant seller getting PO'd and then their next purchase falls through and then you're put off by three months and then the city realizes that certain permits weren't pulled and then...er...never mind.

Congrats! Welcome to the wonderful world of home ownership! I'm guessing 1200 sq ft?
 
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Very nice! Let me know when I can move in. o:)
 
  • #14
FredGarvin said:
You've just entered the exciting part of the purchase...the time for the home inspection and the resultant seller getting PO'd and then their next purchase falls through and then you're put off by three months and then the city realizes that certain permits weren't pulled and then...er...never mind.
Actually, no - the house is only 2 years old, so I'm forgoing the inspection and the seller is moving in with his fiance, so as long as they don't break up in the next 6 weeks, I'm golden.
Congrats! Welcome to the wonderful world of home ownership! I'm guessing 1200 sq ft?
Just under 1,600 including the garage.
 
  • #15
Evo said:
Very nice! Let me know when I can move in. o:)
How many daughters do you have, again...? :biggrin: (and how old...?)
 
  • #16
Now all women(another nice thing about being a woman) around here are going to PM russ and ask him out! :-p
 
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ZapperZ said:
Look at the size of that place. Think of all the wall space and shelf space you have to display all the Disney stuff!

Zz.
I herd you can buy the disney castle for under $10,000,000 dollars or you can buy the epcot giant golf ball for $100,000,000 but if that's too enxpensive I herd you can by the world is a small place ride for $1,000,000.But try not by the tower of terror it may be cheap but your health insurence goes way up.
 
  • #18
russ_watters said:
Actually, no - the house is only 2 years old, so I'm forgoing the inspection and the seller is moving in with his fiance, so as long as they don't break up in the next 6 weeks, I'm golden.
I would advise against skipping the home inspection, but that is just my opinion.

russ_watters said:
Just under 1,600 including the garage.
You guys get to count the garage in the sq. footage? The only places you are allowed to count sq footage here is if it is living space. Quite the bachelor pad.
 
  • #19
russ_watters said:
How many daughters do you have, again...? :biggrin: (and how old...?)
Two ages 18 & 21.
 
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FredGarvin said:
I would advise against skipping the home inspection, but that is just my opinion.

You guys get to count the garage in the sq. footage? The only places you are allowed to count sq footage here is if it is living space. Quite the bachelor pad.
In places I've lived the garage is included in the square footage if it is attached, the square footage is not included if the garage is not attached.
 
  • #21
FredGarvin said:
I would advise against skipping the home inspection, but that is just my opinion.
(snip)

Second: Under NO circumstance do you ever skip the inspection --- particularly on new or near new construction.
 
  • #22
And you may want to talk to Moonbear about the Icy Hill, she may have some tips to share.
 
  • #23
FredGarvin said:
You guys get to count the garage in the sq. footage? The only places you are allowed to count sq footage here is if it is living space.
Eh - as long as it is understood, it doesn't matter to me either way. But at about 10x20, 1560-200=1360 sq ft of living space.
I would advise against skipping the home inspection, but that is just my opinion.
Bystander said:
Second: Under NO circumstance do you ever skip the inspection --- particularly on new or near new construction.
Thanks, but since it is only 2 years old and had to be inspected before the current owner moved-in and everything on it would have to be in the disclosure statement anyway, I consider that to be redundant - and my agent (buyer's agent) agrees. I'll ask again, though...
 
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russ_watters said:
Thanks, but since it is only 2 years old and had to be inspected before the current owner moved-in and everything on it would have to be in the disclosure statement anyway, I consider that to be redundant - and my agent (buyer's agent) agrees. I'll ask again, though...
I'd still recommend it. I've known of some shady builders who manage to get C of Os by having their buddies do the inspections. The inspection doesn't really cost much, and it gives you the peace of mind that you're not going to find any surprises. They often find a lot of minor things too that don't need to be fixed, but are more suggestions or reminders of things you need to make sure get maintained properly.

And, sorry Hypatia, no tips on icy hills other than get a 4WD. :biggrin: That hill doesn't look too bad though...as long as it's straight and not curvy, no problem...my problem is all the hills are S-curves too, so you can either go fast enough to get up the hill, or slow enough to stay on the road, but not both. :frown:

The house looks very nice, and it looks like a really nice view out the back too! I see a lot of nice trees in the distance.

Congrats Russ! Mmm...yeah, I think I agree with the other women here...home ownership indicates the sort of stability that makes a guy very attractive. :!) :biggrin:
 
  • #25
russ_watters said:
(snip)Thanks, but since it is only 2 years old and had to be inspected before the current owner moved-in

The only thing inspected on the initial sale (builder to current owner) was the number of containers in the Iron City six-pack.

and everything on it would have to be in the disclosure statement anyway,

Disclosure statements don't protect you from anything --- "I never noticed any moldy smell from the bathroom." You have to prove in court that the seller had prior knowledge of any defects you run into, or that run you out of the house.

I consider that to be redundant - and my agent (buyer's agent) agrees. I'll ask again, though...

Two years old? It's almost guaranteed to have been built to "Industry Standards.*"

*Industry Standards: if it don't show, don't bother spending the money to put it in (diagonal bracing, shear wall stud spacing in shear walls, wind ties, ...); electrical, mechanical, plumbing components shall be the cheapest end of inventory available from suppliers; and on and on and on.

Russ it's "caveat emptor" for big money --- you've got a rental agreement --- take the time to look things over closely, and have a "professional" (Hah! Most "inspectors" are former builders or building subcontractors --- not the sharpest knives in the drawer) look things over for you. Count "For Sale" signs in the development, HVAC, plumbing, electrical service trucks.

I'm not trying to be a wet blanket --- it can be the ugliest learning experience you'll ever have --- much worse than a year in "The Nam." Keep your eyes wide open, and assume the worst of your fellow man --- that's not going to be enough to actually prepare you for entering the real estate market, but it should cut the "shock" a little for you. Once you sign, you are well and truly screwed, and you will then find the true utility of consumer protection agencies, laws, building inspectors, BBBs, courts, home buyers' warranties, binding arbitration, and all the other mobbed up rip-off artists in this world.

It's exciting. The idea is fun. You are really looking forward to it. You really want to do this. And "they" know it --- please be careful.
 
  • #26
Careful, Russ. The cavewomen are coming after you, and they all have rather large clubs!

<ZapperZ runs and hides>

Zz.
 
  • #27
Just for laughs, PM me the builder, and I'll run the name through my "spy ring" for "endorsements." Definitely not something to discuss publicly.
 
  • #28
Evo said:
Two ages 18 & 21.
Ehh, not going to work. You can rent, though...
 
  • #29
Bystander said:
Disclosure statements don't protect you from anything --- "I never noticed any moldy smell from the bathroom." You have to prove in court that the seller had prior knowledge of any defects you run into, or that run you out of the house.
Dunno - I have a friend who got a bunch of money when they bought a house with a flooded basement and the previous owner didn't list it in the disclosure statement.
I'm not trying to be a wet blanket...
No prob - I appreciate the advice.
 
  • #30
Moonbear said:
And, sorry Hypatia, no tips on icy hills other than get a 4WD. :biggrin: That hill doesn't look too bad though...as long as it's straight and not curvy, no problem...my problem is all the hills are S-curves too, so you can either go fast enough to get up the hill, or slow enough to stay on the road, but not both. :frown:
I have no idea what you people are talking about.
Congrats Russ! Mmm...yeah, I think I agree with the other women here...home ownership indicates the sort of stability that makes a guy very attractive.
Yeah, that's exactly what I was going for... :rolleyes:

But hey - perks are perks, right...?
 
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