How many places in the solar system have liquid water?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the presence of liquid water in the solar system, focusing on various celestial bodies such as moons and planets. Participants explore the potential for significant quantities of liquid water, considering both probable and possible candidates, while also discussing the conditions that might allow for liquid water to exist.

Discussion Character

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that there may be a half dozen or more moons with significant quantities of liquid water, specifically mentioning Enceladus as a benchmark for "significant."
  • A list of probable candidates for liquid water is proposed, including Europa, Enceladus, Ganymede, Callisto, and Dione, while Rhea, Mimas, Titan, and Tethys are considered possible.
  • Another participant agrees with the probable list but emphasizes the importance of tidal forces from surrounding moons in maintaining liquid water, suggesting a need for general conditions rather than just a list of moons.
  • Uranus is mentioned as a potential candidate due to its moons, with a note that geothermal activity could also contribute to the presence of liquid water.
  • Concerns are raised about the classification of Dione and Callisto, with one participant expressing uncertainty about their status as probable candidates.
  • There is a discussion about the presence of liquid water in the atmospheres of gas giants like Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune, where the right conditions of temperature and pressure could allow for water clouds.
  • One participant clarifies that Titan contains liquid hydrocarbons rather than water.
  • Mars is discussed in terms of its historical presence of water and the possibility of frozen water, with some uncertainty about the existence of underground liquid water.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on which celestial bodies contain liquid water, with no consensus reached on the definitive list of candidates. There are differing views on the significance of certain moons and the conditions required for liquid water to exist.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexity of identifying liquid water, including the need to consider geological features and the depth of potential water sources. The discussion reflects uncertainty regarding the classification of certain moons and the conditions necessary for liquid water.

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How many places in the solar system do think have liquid water in significant quantities(I would consider the quantities on Enceladus to be significant, and the quantities on Mars to be insignificant)?

I'd bet there are a half dozen or more moons that have liquid water, but does anyone else, possibly more knowledgeable than myself want to make a guestimate?
 
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anyone want to take a stab?

I'll start a list.

Probable:

Europa
Enceladus
Ganymede
Callisto
Dione

Possible:

Rhea
Mimas
Titan
Tethys
 
dimensionless said:
anyone want to take a stab?

I'll start a list.

Probable:

Europa
Enceladus
Ganymede
Callisto
Dione

Possible:

Rhea
Mimas
Titan
Tethys

I hope you get a decent response to your question. I believe you are right at least about the top list, but my reaction is that it is probably limited to moons of Jupiter and Saturn that are subjected to a TIDAL MASSAGE by their fellow moons. Would you agree? or could you propose some general conditions? So we don't have to work with lists of moons but can think in terms of some general requirements.

And the question would always be "how deep do you have to go?"
 
Uranus, with 13 moons, might also be a good candidate. I can not comment about comets though. A tidal massage is probably the most likely means, although I wouldn't rule out geothermal.

I'm not totally sure about my list. I'm made it by looking for smooth surfaces and evidence of plate tectonics. I might, in some instances, have some difficulty distinguishing plate tectonics from other types of geologic formations.

Personally I'm not so interested in the depth. My primary interest is the volume. This is the reason, Mars was not put on the list.
 
Me, I'd put Callisto and Dione as possible (not even sure Dione would rate that).

For sure there is 'liquid water' in Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune - for 'liquid water' all you need is the right combo of temperature, pressure, and abundance; isn't there a layer (maybe more than one) in the atmosphere of all these where water clouds can form?
 
Titan

That's liquid hydrocarbons, not water.
 
What about Mars?I know it doesn't have water but it did millons of years ago and there might be frozen water still there.
 
scott1 said:
What about Mars?I know it doesn't have water but it did millons of years ago and there might be frozen water still there.
There is definitely still water ice on Mars (major component of its ice caps). The current question is whether there's underground water (and whether that occasionally comes to the surface in liquid form).
 

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